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OK, finally we can say the Yankees front office played a situation like the Mets would have....and, you guys are in trouble. Lets see them drop the ball on Sheff and I'll call it a tri fecta, with their pick up last week!

They won't though. They have to bring Sheff here now...unfortunately he knows this too and likely will play hard ball.
 

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That would be big time but necessary to make up for a weaker rotation. What would you do with Sheff, Vlad, Bernie and Matsui....who would sit?....Bernie? A trade for an arm?
 

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This is the worst blunder that his royal ass-holiness Steinbrenner has ever made. The pompous ass should have resigned Pettite before the season was over. He will be missed in NY.

HOWEVER: Do not sell the Yankees pitching staff short. We still have Moose, Wells, Contreras and if Jeff Leiber is healthy, 4 quality starters. Mind you if the Yanks loose Pettite, which looks iminent, watch them get Doc Haliday....and then Vladimir.
 

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Why don't they bring someone up from the system rather than concentrating on buying a team?
The Yankees use the rest of the poorer teams in the league as their minor league system. They are one of a handful of teams that can afford to pay for any player they want. This hurts the smaller market teams, obviously, but as long as George has the money and the control the team will be run this way.
When George was suspened from baseball operations he made it clear that no one was to deal any of their young talent while he was away. That's when you ended up with Jeter, Bernie, Mariano and Pettite. Now he's going to revert back to what he does best...pissing away millions to chase names rather than cultivate a young talent.

PS those of you who feel the need to defend the Yanks by saying that they don't buy their teams and point to the above mentioned players as "home grown" take note...had any of those guys come up in any other teams farm system by the time their first contract came up for renewal that team couldn't have afforded to resign them and they would have ended up elsewhere.

PSS George doesn't like Andy Pettite...he wanted him gone back in 99.

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Steinbrener should have concentrated on retaining a player that came up through the system.


The Yanks won't bring in Sheffield and Guerro, but now it might have to be the latter.
 

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When George was suspened from baseball operations he made it clear that no one was to deal any of their young talent while he was away.
I belive it was the exact opposite where the baseball people w/out interference from George retained all the talent instead of swapping them for big name players that usually didn't work out.
 

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they are saying 10 million a year, surely, George would have topped that?

aren't you guys getting the feeling that maybe he didn't want Petitte back??
 

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Petitte took 3 million less from the Astro's...maybe he was tired of George's crap...
 

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Andy turned down 39 million to sign w Astros for 30 million with some money deffered.

Steinbrenner never liked him.
 
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All is NOT good in Yankee land:cussing: ! I am VERY disappointed and VERY angry. I will NOT get over this too quickly. They are my Yankees and we will recover but, this really BLOWS! I am in a mood right now and I will discuss anything, my #'s , my time on the water, Travis, Mr.Jig, John G anything that you want! Hell, I'll even talk politics, gays, police brutality, EEBA, river cleanups, censorship, marrige, Senkos, NYBASS, anything you want! :argue: I won't jump off the nearest bridge, but, PLEASe, will SOMEONE take all these sharp objects AWAY from me:headshake :firing: :headshake :firing: :no: :no: !

*** Please understand, I was kidding about discussing my #'s.*** Oh hell, let's discuss em'!
 

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Is it so hard for the Yankees people/fans to believe that it was not about money for him,he wanted to go home and he did for less money. I think it's great when a player walks the walk after saying it's not always about money. I think that Wells has walked or been non tendered and can't resign with his former team untill May 1. The rotation as I see it now Moose(great)Contreras(some good but some real aweful)Lieber(coming back from long injury) Weaver('Nuff said) but the Yanks might pick up Brown from LA,$15 mill for the next two years awesome when not hurt-hurt all the time oh yea he's 39. If any of the teams interested in Vlad Gurerro want him they should sign him now because if the yanks miss out on Sheffield they will get VG at any cost.
 

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Its a shame. Pettitte was a great ball player and a class act. He wanted to be home more than he wanted money or to win. I now consider the Yankees pitching staff average with the only proven decent pitcher in Mussina. It's very tough to go anywhere without pitching.
The Yankees have very good position players, but instead of going after Vlad, the need to go after a pitcher, other than Brown. Vlad is great, but it would create a real mess with 4 all star outfielders. One would have to sit and that would put alot of pressure and maybe even hostilitly between the players. Thats the last thing the Yankees need....fighting between teamates.
Kevin Brown was a great pitcher in his prime, but that has clearly past. He is injury plagued and 39!!!
Vazquez was a great addition because he is a great YOUNG pitcher. Its a gamble to acquire any pitcher over 35 because you never know when their arm is going to go. George needs to look to someone other than Brown. And put the pitching staff together
 

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I just heard on espn radio that the Yankees traded Weaver and 2 minor leaguers for Kevin Brown

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not being much of a baseball fan, maybe some of you can answer a simple question for me-

why is it that the fans have more team loyalty than the players?

i understand it is big business and these guys are earning a living, but holy sh!!-when is enough enough?-

i think every man woman and child on this board would be happy making a million bucks a year and having job security-

steinbrenner and his boys, the yankees, are almost the best team that money can buy-

the players don't care about team loyality, like another profession, they do it for money-
 

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There are few people in any walk of life that do things for less than the highest bid. Andy is a good guy and probably resents the way he was treated through the years. The Yanks didn't want him back and made it clear in the way the pursued him. I don't agree with letting him go, but I'm sure if they had their mind set on retaining him they could have done so.

If you think the Yanks are out of it for next year "don't bet the house."
 
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