The New York Bass Forums banner
Status
Not open for further replies.
1 - 4 of 4 Posts

·
lurecrafter
Joined
·
296 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Recently I started posting on Gary Yamamoto's forum on
http://www.insideline.net/ez-forum/ez-forum.pl?#20046 and decided to give my opinion on one of Russ Bassdozer's articles which turned out to be a paid advertisement.

The key concept that he was associating with strike success was that since everything a bass eats is laminated or two tone, if you buy the new laminated Senko your copying what nature intended for most prey species. I won't go into the pros and cons of color/patttern theory - we all have discussed this before.
But as the posts started to build (about 20 immediately, which were mostly positive), RD began to get more and more pissed and began to deny that he ever meant to associate lamination as a natural choice when buying Senkos, but accused me of misstating the entire promo or even insinuating that it was a promo.

I even apologized to all that not only follow and believe everything Russ has ever written, but to those that "may have felt uncomfortably disillusioned" by concepts that questioned lure elements that attract, as written over the last 30 years. Even that wasn't good enough for Russ, who accused me of trying to get in the last word in the first sentence and then continued to cut-and-paste many of my sentences with comments (like I do- LOL.)

Needless to say, the moderator for Yamamoto deleted almost every reply to the post (at least 12) that was unkind, derogatory or just plain-out, viscious AND made him apologize to me.

I don't hold any angler, no matter what their accomplishments, in higher esteem than I would any one talent on this board. Much of a pros status is quickly discredited by his commercial prostitution and self aggrandizement at every opportunity. Anyone that has fished with me, knows that in my book, sharing is a two way street. The gurus of bass fishing are on a one-way street to the easy life once they've gotten a few classics under their belts or became sponsors for big name companies. Nothing wrong with that!

But don't make my hemerhoids bleed because you feel your ideas, statements and advertising are above questioning or that what I have to say is far less important or illuminating.

Russ showed me and quite a few other guys his true colors and will be curbed from here on I'm certain. That's the nice thing about being a nobody - I can (politely) say what I want about a bigshot's claims and assertions and not be deleted! :D

If you look at his picture, imagine a caption under it, "would you buy a used car from this guy?"

FrankM

p.s. too all those that respect and revere the man, my apologies. But, he don't bring home my bacon, only his own, and no one should bash another with the lack of class that he did. It's not good for business or one's credibility!!
 
G

·
p.s. too all those that respect and revere the man, my apologies. But, he don't bring home my bacon, only his own, and no one should bash another with the lack of class that he did. It's not good for business or one's credibility!!
Frank, I have been taught at a very young age, "Don't become what you hate in other people." Seems to me that, this is what you have done by bringing this scenario over here to NYBASS. I don't see the relevence in relation to this board:confused: . Please keep in mind that I do not know Russ from a whole in the wall and I intend on keeping it that way!




If you look at his picture, imagine a caption under it, "would you buy a used car from this guy?"
There are people that respect your opinion on this board, this bashing of others seems to "me" that you have become what you despise in Russ?
 

·
lurecrafter
Joined
·
296 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Like many annoyances in life, sometimes it's good to get things off your chest and to send the message out that, though a person be well known does not mean they won't turn on the less known. If I questioned a surgeon's approach to his trade, I would expect to be shot down, but this is no where near as technical or critical. Those that make it so have a thing or two to sell.

We've discussed commercialism of the sport ad nauseum and ridiculed Bill Dance, Roland Martin and others for making statements and claims to sell products. In a recent post I showed pictures of the new tackle for 2004 and some of it was just the same stuff in a different package. The basics haven't changed and neither have the lure categories, just appearances and price. Discerning bassers (like those on this board and those new to it), may find it interesting that the conventional wisdom still survives and at times will be used in conjunction with product hype, regardless of relativity.

All of us have the right to question the associations made by anyone, pro or not, because we have the experiences to back up what we say and have related those experiences to one another. As I said, for the 'street' to only be 'one way', indicates an arrogance that tries to dictate what you believe, what you buy and what you should or should not question. That's the stuff of infomercials, such as the Banjo Minnow, which received an almost record number of posts, pointing out many facets of deception and possilbly, unethical dealings. Do you remember?

As long as persons like Russ represent a large multimillion dollar company, and make statements that I want to discuss openly with forum members, (and as long as I don't accuse him of deceptive practices), I expect to at least be heard without the spokesman ripping me a new one.

I like the forum and feel comfortable posting there, as I do here. The strength of this forum stands on its own two legs, and is about illustrating anything to do with fishing. If this should have gone into the Off Topics Category, so be it. But anyone's pseudo-lurology is always a potential target, as it should be. Though you may feel this topic is inappropriate for this board, others may find it a little interesting and/or question future articles on product sites, written by pros-turned-ad men.

FrankM
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
21,693 Posts
Andy, I agree with you whole heartedly (finally!LOL)....
'
Frank, even though, I know your heart is in the right place I will not allow a discussion involving Russ to go on here if he is not here to explain and defend himself.....I owe him that much..

sorry........
 
1 - 4 of 4 Posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top