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Posted by Mark G on 2003 PM:

Yamamoto Cut Tail Senkos

Looks like Gary Yamamoto has done it again:

Cut Tail Senkos

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The 7X has all the great features of a Senko - same salt, same density, same formulation - and it casts well and falls like a Senko when rigged weightless. But the 7X has a unique action with its special cut tail.

Well, I'm a sucker so I'll order up a few bags. Anyone else taking the plunge?

Mark

Posted by basserachi on 2003 PM:

yeah mark,

They look like good finesse baits...I have some of the small ones, I think they are 4"...I dont think they will have the same fall as the senkos, but they could be close...I never tried them in that manner but I texas rigged them with a small worm weight like I would a 5" slider worm...They caught fish and they have all that salt in them...Do they come in a hundred different colors like the senkos? And if so, buy them all!!! Double your Yammy inventory with one phone call (lol)...

Are you going out on Tues?...I still don't know what I'm doing...I know I'll be fishing, I just don't know where...It depends on the ice status on those lakes up there in your neck of the woods...Talk to you soon...

Mark

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Posted by Mark G on 2003 PM:

I ordered some of the above cut tails in 6.5" and some other senkos. We'll see how they do.

I will almost definitely be working on Tuesday but will be going out this weekend...

Mark

Posted by bink on 2003 PM:

I have used the 4 inch cut tails T rigged and on slider heads. I tried them weightless too but I didnt think they had the fall of the Senko.

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Posted by "Wild Bill" on 2003 AM:

The 7X Cut-tails

which are 6.5 inches are the same wight as a five inch Senko.
I will be fishing this size of cut-atil weightless on a big EWG hook instead of a Super Fluke, fishing it a bit faster than I would a Senko.
I have used the four inch -cut-tails on c-rigs, mojo-rigs and drop-shot rigs, and it is an awesome bait, a over-looked, and under-sung gem in the GYCB lineup as such.
Ijust have gotren the 3.5 inch ones nad the 7X in some quantity, so so I will give a better report, as i plan a trip to NJ this week.
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Posted by Bass Rat on 2003 AM:

Not Senkos

These are excellent baits. They are the Yamamoto Cut Tail worm. Don't confuse them with senkos for ordering purposes. They are very lite.

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Posted by joe pido on 2003 AM:

yuck

didnt like the 4inch cut tails...Ive caught sum on it, but like Nick said, its light. Could be a good drop shot bait, maybe.

As far as the 4inchers go, Ill take Berkeley's Original Power Worm anytime, the RingWorm, and Zoom's Finesse worms. Then the Sliders.....

Joe

Posted by patx on 2003 AM:

These baits are worms, not Senkos and pretty good ones at that. I personally dont have much experience with them because they are new, and we lived in Antartica practically this year (lol), but from what I understand, they really fish nice. Russ sent out an email saying that guys are fishing these like a Fluke or a jerk-worm due to its weight. It really is a nice bait. I actually cant wait to flip it. I think that most of the flipping fish that are out there are so used to seeing curly tails and jigs passing by their nose, that a rather straight tail, or cut tail might be giving them something different to look at.

I also really want to try this thing rigged with a small barel swivel in front of it, and fished shallow, much like a jerk-worm. That should work nice.

I'll be at the GYCB Lake Okechobee TX on the 11th, and I KNOW Im going to fish this little jewel down there. I'll report back on its action and fishability.

As for the little 4" - it is a DYNAMITE drop shot bait. It is so thin that you can leave it on one place and shake it without having to move it much. That bait produced many big smallies last year. Not much of a cannonballing bait, but for when you want to finesse fish, it really produces. It also works nicely when rigged on a ball head jig or a Slider head. Just my 2.0!

Senkos are Senkos, but a cut tails are cut tails - just dont want you to get confused when your order.

Thanks

Pat X

Posted by Mark G on 2003 AM:

Pat--

I got the feeling the 7X cut tail was being marketed as being similar to the Senko. The smaller 4" versions seem to be less senko like, but the big ones I ordered (6.5") claim to have the same weight and fall as the 5" senko.

I forsee fishing a 7X Cut tail in a similar fashion to the 5" Senko...t-rigged on a 3/0 Gammy EWG hook, weightless. I'm hoping for the same horizontal slow tip-undulating fall as the 5" senko, and a sililar action when dead-sticked through the milfoil, except with the added bonus of the cut tail looking like the caudal fin of a dieing baitfish. Am I off-base, or can I expect that type of action? I guess I'll find out soon enough when my order arrives, but any insight from our resident Yammy expert would be appreciated!

Mark

Posted by Charlie on 2003 AM:

To repeat my esteemed colleague PatX comments, do not get these two baits confused.

As most of you know, I have been using the 4" cut tail for 3 years and it is without doubt the second best bait EVER produced to catch bass is the last 10 years. First place still belongs to the Senko and as I think I have shared with some of you in the past, the Senko and the cut tail are made from the same plastic/salt blending process unique to GYCB.

What we have here is a 7 inch cut tail . The suggestion in the text that accompanies this product indicates that you can "fish it like your Senko" so perhaps that is where the confusion comes in!

I still believe that the cut tail is the "pre-dining" experience to bass fishing before the main course............the Senko!

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Posted by fishEguy on 2003 PM:

singing: "We love you Gary, WE DO" We love you Gary, WE DO!!
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Charlie, I think you may be 2 senkos shy of a 10ct bag!..........

Michael

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Posted by patx on 2003 PM:

Mark,

Your dead on - expect that kind of action. That bait will fall horizontal if it is rigged with a relatively light wire hook. Im not pushing a sponsor - honestly - but GYCB has a Sugoi light wire hook that works really nice for this presentation. I have always been suprised just how strong this little sucker is. Its so light that I try to use it every time that I am fishing a bait that has to fall slow, or at least fall by the weight of the plastic, not the hook. Carolina riggin for example - its a great hook for that. I would NOT use that hook for flipping, or for fishing in the mat like on the Hudson (now, i never straightened one of these out, but....like I said, its a light wire hook - great for certain applications like yours).

If you have another hook that is really light, expect the same. This bait WILL act like a Senko in that way (weightless, wacky, etc.), but expect the fall to be a little different than a Senko. The Senko is tapered on both sides, and is perfectly round. The Cut Tail has that fin that you mentioned. That fin, or cut-tail will cause the bait to fall in a spiral pattern - like a said - effective but not exactly like a Senko. Heck - THE THING IS GONNA WORK! Trust me. LOL - its sometimes tough putting in words what your eyes see on the water some times - LOL

I still say that this sucker is going to make a GREAT flipping bait, or just cast it to thoseweededges that everyone else fishes STANDARD (whatever that means - ) worms. The action is going to be GREAT!!!!!

LETS GO FISHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im all pumped up!!!

Pat X

Posted by bink on 2003 PM:

Mark, The reason it might seem to be advertised as "Senko Like" is in some of the print ads they use the word Senko a very clever way of suggesting it will work as well as a Senko so buy them. In the new BASSMASTER magizine the add says it "Casts well and falls like a Senko" not confusing.

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Posted by Mark G on 2003 PM:

My Yammy order just walked in the door!

I just reviewed the 6.5" cut tails in relation to some normal 5" senkos I ordered and I'm pretty excited to try them out. I hope they have that same fall as the 5" and from the discussions and marketing lit, I expect they will.

I'll report on my findings with them once I get out on the water!

Mark

Posted by bink on 2003 PM:

Not being afraid to admit when I might be wrong i will admit I might be wrong about this product. I bought a bag last weekend and tried them on my local River and while the water might only be 38 degrees and I didnt expet to catch anything I was impressed with the large cut tail. It falls very much like a senko with a nice "worm" like profile. This bait has HUGE potential dropped into pads or besides stumps. It also has a nice action when jerked or popped kind of soft jerkbaitish with an action tail. I was impressed. Blue Crawfish!

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Posted by Lpbassman on 2003 PM:

I just may have to try some of the 7X size. Does any one how the 4" size compares to an actual Slider worm? I would think they would work well. Do they come in Blue Crawfish color? OOPS!

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