Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 AM:

Boingers! Get 'em Fast!

The new Boing "spooks" are now for sale at www.basstackle.com .I was told they only have 100-200 baits for now until Tim paints more,so I'd order soon.If they do sell out,you can also try Table Rock tackle,417-739-4541.Good Luck...><>...HS

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Posted by bass 64 on 2002 PM:

Just ordered the Slimer Boinger total $28.90! Am I crazy? It better be worth it!I hope its as good as it sounds.

Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

Bass 64...

It's a bargain,I have known Tim for a good while now and everything he puts his name on is golden.The "early" boingers he taught me to make would out catch people in the same boat throwing common spooks 5-1 easy,and call up fish out of grass that probably wouldn't have given another lure a second look.These new lures will crush the old models.Check out Tim's website www.hughescustombaits.com ,read the articles(reviews) and testimonials,It's all good.BTW,I don't benefit by passing on this info,just sharing a hot bait and helping a good friend who deserves all that comes his way...><>...HS

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 AM:

it looks fabulous, and this was a thread on here some time back and so they should be informed of their availabilty as Hooked has done, however, "paint" me as a skeptic, no insult to Tim Hughes obvious talented work.....for 28 dollars I could have 5 or 6 spittin images which would probably last me a lifetime as I have one that already is going on 3 years.....outfished 5 to 1? Again I would have to be on the boat with someone using it and see it, maybe some day we can "hook-up" together, Hooked, and in a prime topwater situation see if that very same thing happens.....my take is that it is the skill of the user, walking the dog is a very precise motion and with that technique more than other topwater techniques, it is technique sensitive.......what are other people's reads on this topic? JOHN G

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Posted by FISHIN' GYPSY on 2002 AM:

They should actually call me the "The Fishin' Skeptic" as I too am not easily swayed by fishing tackle claims, lure claims and most ANY other claim. I deal in FACTS and not opinion or hearsay. And I am NOT takin' anything away from the inventor of these lures. I am sure he is an honest, hardworking and deserving individual, and I wish him nothing but the very best.

BUT... I have seven plano StowAways full of Zara Spooks of all sizes and colors, and anyone who fishes with me in "top water season" knows how I feel about the Zara. Outfish me 5 to 1 with one of these "Boingers"??? I would have to see it to believe it!

I make fun of Greg Hill and his $15 and $16 dollar jerk baits... At the same time I am outfishing him 3 or 4 to one with my ole Smithwick Suspending Rouge.

You can purchase a $150 sable artist's brush, but that don't make you Picaso.

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Posted by bink on 2002 AM:

28 bucks holy mackamoly. I am a tackle snob and I admit it.I don't throw .99 spinnerbaits and I have been known to throw a Lucky craft jerkbait into a tree I even still use Senko knowing that others make a fine knock off lure......but twenty eight bucks sheezzz. I love the regular Spook and it's bastard offspring the Spook Jr.

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Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 PM:

Guys, I know Paul and I know he has no affiliation with Tim Hughes other than friendship. I have a Boinger and it is the real deal.

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Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

$22.95 each

No matter where you buy a bait Uncle Sam gets his and you normally pay shipping,so there not actually 28.90. Spooks are not that difficult to walk and these new spook-like baits are made to walk even so a 5 yr old w/ a zebco could use it.Shorter pistol grip rods 5'-6' are ideal.Just one of the cases where the boing outfished other spooks was a guy I had made some for a year ago,he's not a very talented angler and fished in the middle of the boat, in between a guide and his friend who fishes often on Champlain.He told me the smallies were by-passing the other spooks to attack his.And he had to sleep with them at night to avoid theft from the other anglers after the first day.I've also out fished people on my boat who were also throwing original spooks by a decent margin.You guys be the judge. John I'd be happy to give you lessons in spookology anytime,that good top bite should on now or soon,how's lilly sound .Gypsy you have way too many spooks my friend,7 boxes!WOW...><>...HS

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Posted by FISHIN' GYPSY on 2002 PM:

Hooked,

Well that sounds like a LOT... If you say it REAL fast! But... Let me break it down for you, and you will see that it makes perfect sense. I use the Plano 3700 StowAway boxes and...

Box #1... Standard, run-0-da-mill 4.5" Zara Spooks (8colors)
Box #2... Standard, run-0-da-mill 4.5" Zara Spooks (8 more colors)
Box #3... Standard, 5" "Super Spook"series (8 colors)
Box #4... Standard, 5" "Super Spook" (8 more colors)
Box #5... Standard, 3.5" "Super Spook, Jr." (8 colors)
Box #6... Standard, 3.5" "Super Spook, Jr." (8 more colors)
Box #7... Deluxe, 5.5" "Excalibur" Spooks (8 salt water colors)
Box #8... Standard, 3" "Zara Puppy" Spooks (12 colors)
Box #9... Standard, 4.5" Zara Spook (8 Custom paint jobs)

I went out in the "Tackle Store" and checked to make sure...OOOPS! Miscounted there... SORRY! I REFUSE to use anything smaller than the "Puppy". I never used a spook "Puppy", until last summer... Max McAllister did some "Whoop-Ass" on me, on the Susky one day, with them.
I was on the phone to Heddon THAT evening, ordering a good supply of them. I found out since, that they are dy-no-mite on the FLA Peacock Bass too.

I modify ALL of the standard Zara Spooks, by removing the hooks from the hook hangers; placing a split ring on the hook hanger; hanging an "Excalibur" hook on the split ring. The "Super Spook" and "Super Spook, Jr." spooks are already rigged this way and need no modifications.

They are my NUMBER ONE choice for a topwater lure, even though I do sometimes throw a Pop-R, Pop-N Image, Spit-N Image and Tiny Torpedo, Floating Rogue or Devil's Horse. I have caught a ton of big Snook, Tarpon, Jack, LM and SM Bass, Peacock Bass and other fish on them, and all 7 of my Northern Pike "World Records" were caught on some type, color and size of "Spook".

STILL... I mave have to break down and TRY one of these $28 jobbies sometime. But I'm NOT going to tell Greg when I do!

PS: Did I ever mention that I have serious suspicions that Greg is a "JINX"!

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

hey Gyp, imagine if you could buy one of those 28 dollar babies and then put all of that listed tackle up for sale in the local Pennysaver?! LOL!! Hooked, if that Boinger could scare up reasonable amounts of quality fish AT LILLY, then I will fill up a 3700 with em'!! JOHN G

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 PM:

28.95 with shipping

AH, I got one anyway. Won't be the last 30 bucks I spend on fishin stuff.

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Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

Guys try this...

Go to your local tackle dealer and ask him to order the baits for you.they'll make money on the sale,you save on the shipping.they should retail in tackle stores for the same 22.95 just like on basstackle...><>...HS

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Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 PM:

Hey Paulie>>>>>don't you have some painting to do or somethin????

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Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

A 5lb,a 3+,and more...

Threw the new "Boinger" this weekend at Twin lakes for the first time and in less than 1 hr had a 5lb LM,3+LM,numerous chases and 2 jump overs,4 picks.Solid outing for a new bait...><>...HS

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Posted by bass 64 on 2002 PM:

Just got my boinger today. Looks Great! Still cost a lot of money though. Hey Hooked what color did you get? I got the Slimer color and it looks amazing.

Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

White flash

bass 64, I caught my fish on the white flash,But I love the slimer pattern as well,it probably would have worked just as good,but I do well on east twin with white baits,Good luck...><>...HS

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Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

Gypsy and John G, paint me in your corner....it is nice to say that one is throwing a high end bait on the latest rod and reel etc etc and I do this myself, BUT if fish are on a topwater bite they are on it and they don't know a tinkers damn worth of difference between one popper, dog walker or another given that they are of the same action(in this case a similar cadence)and the angler knows when and where and why to throw a given topwater(for instance when to throw a prop bait over a shaven lipped pop-r)....One of the issues of the last few given years that has made me shake my head is the expensive imports that boast of realistic topwaters (finishes), in all of the tank tests I have done I am yet to be able to discern between a white topwater and a black one when viewed from underneath the bait, given that they both have similar bellies....truth in advertising to anglers is fading quickly if not all gone . 28$+ would get me a good amount of gas in the SUV and boat so I wouldn't be so easily lured....just my .02

wonder if a jitterbug, Rapala(drilled of course) or dying flutter still take fish

T

Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Trav, so true....in fact, the walk the dog lure that I have been using the most of recent is the SpitnImage.....not sure of the cost, but probably is only about 5 bucks or so......JOHN G

Posted by Hooked Solid on 2002 PM:

Travis,Here's my .03

I didn't post about the Boing stuff just to say I throw "high end" baits on my junk 6 yr old rods and reels,in fact ,I wasn't the first one to bring the baits up on this site.All the info I've gained from the "show me state" has greatly improved my fishing over the last 5 yrs without question,it's the mecca.Just wanted to share some good info on a new bait to the boys and gals on the board.

My bro and I had a decent pod of fish early this weekend willing to hit topwater,he threw a pop-r style bait and I threw the "spook".These fish were absolutely pissed at the spook,where my bro didn't get even a sniffle on the pop-r.I may believe this fish gave an irish tinker's darn about what bait they were eatin'.

And just cuz I'm feeling patriotic,this bait is no"import".It takes Missouri,Kentucky,California and New Jersey to put the boing on the market.Born and bred in the good ol' USA!Where $28 will put 13 gal of gas in my truck and 5 gal of gas in my boat.Which won't even get me over the bridge to the lake and let me run my boat maybe twice!

If you guys don't think it'll work, by all means, don't get one.I'm not trying to force anyone's hand here.Just don't paint yourself into a corner. ...><>...HS

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Posted by bass 64 on 2002 PM:

travis

I agree about the price. I am still cringing about it. I actually had a nightmare about losing it on the first cast last night.LOL Any way the reason I bought it was because of the sound. It sounds completely insane. When people tell me (people who have nothing to benefit from it) that it will outfish other spooks 5:1, excellent fisherman such as hooked and earthworm well you can't help being a little interested.

Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

Knew I would draw a bit of heat over what I stated but in true Marine fashion I will expound and clarify what I was getting at fellow bassers and standup to it. I am someone guilty of having too much tackle for 10 guys(very limited selection but Huge numbers of what I use ), tinkering that borders on the lunatic side with lures and modifying reels ratios to suit a specific application all the way to going through a season of using Pointer stickbaits so that I could master their actions with how I drilled Rapalas....yes I use top end baits and my spinning reels are all Van Staals, my cranks are handmade from both balsa and cedar from a man in Tenn.(NOT cheap) and I could go on and on....the above is by no means a blowing of my own horn because I couldn't care less if I am seen with this brand over another brand equipment but I know even at my young(ish) age what does and doesn't work or possibly could. What works is building a knowledge of how your quarry reacts with everything from water clarity, , baro pressure, calender period and to that damn annoying jet ski doing circles around your marker bouy and in turn you adjusting to it. When all else is comfortably mastered to ones best abilities is when the more posh elements of fishing become "nice"....in the grand scheme of the revolving world if purchasing a 28$ topwater makes one more happy with their fishing and hopefully success....by all means do it because lets face it, it is less than a night out with your better 1/2 at anyplace I know of....and having a plug that you wink at every time you tie it on as you remember the strings you have pulled with it is just plain the way it should be.

bass64...who is this Earthworm fella ?

hooked solid....comparing a spook bite to one on a walk the ole' dog bite is the same as comparing a worm bite compared to a jig bite(traditional j-n-p)...similar but a different thing all together. A spook type bait both are on top of the water, other than that the two types of baits are different in action, cadence of retrieve, profile etc. I did a novel length post at one time on here(don't know if she still exists) on the differences in topwater bites....subtle(quivered raps), crazy agressive(buzzbaits, double props etc) and somewhere in between(spooks)...there is a time for all of those but when one is on it is on...not because of the baits but because of the bass' temperment and mood at the given time given the umpteen factors that dictate such things. Noone needs to justify or try to why they would spend $ on something to me, but if someone stood on a deck and outfished me with a 28$ spook type bait to what I was walking the dog with when the fish were on that type bait, I would not only be suprised but I also would consider myself educated that day on the water.

best, Trav

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 AM:

Good thread

Huge & Travis, nice job at representing 2 sides of a subject. I learned some good points. Man, that seems to be habitual on this site.

Thanks, Nick

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Posted by joe pido on 2002 AM:

yo big guy....

,,,this is why we miss ya...lol.....how's the missus...is jr soon coming???

joe

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 AM:

Got my Boinger today

This thing is beautiful. I am torn between fishing it or buying a glass case for it.

I'll give a report after I put it to the task.

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Posted by bass 64 on 2002 AM:

Bass Rat

What color did you get?

Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 AM:

T-hehe

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Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 AM:

Slimer

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Posted by Scully on 2002 AM:

a true believer....

For all you skeptics out there let me add my two cents for whatever that is worth. While I dont consider myself a "topwater expert", I am more than adept at throwing the spook and other top waters. The spook, devils horse and Nip-a-Diddy being a few of my favorites.

I have fished along side a friend of mine on Oneida Lake where he outfished me at least 3 to 1 on one of those blasted "spooks that boing". To prove a point we switched lures. Immediately the results tilted my way....considerably.

A few months later the same friend and I were fishing a small lake in up-state New York where the same scenario as stated above took place. That was enough to tilt me to one side.

Too add a bit more to the story, I spoke with a good friend from Connecticut who fishes the Top 150 Trail. While on Table Rock he had a very similar experience to mine. He went on to state that most of the anglers from that area fish "spooks that boing".

Think about it....the darn thing makes sense. Add a bit of noise to an already potent bait and at times it can make all the difference. Look at the venerable buzzbait as an example...great bait, but add a "clacker" and it becomes something else entirely.
I know quite a few guys who doctor their buzzbaits to get as much noise as possible out of them.

Let me finish on this note. A quote from Zell Rowland. "As a rule of thumb, the more noise your top water bait creates the better."

And Travis....not only would you be surprised, you would be dumbfounded. Also, why would you fish a Van Stahl??? These reels are made especially for surf fisherman to the best of my knowledge. The selling point of these reels is that you can completley immerse them in salt water and not have the gear case become caked with sand, at least that is what the local dealer tells me. According to him these reels were not designed for freshwater. Have they come out with a new model?

Scully

Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

Scully, you basically stated the reasons I own them...you can immerse them in anything imaginable and they will keep on working thus these are the last spinning reels I will ever buy or need for that matter...their smallest model the VS100 is the only one I use and for anything under 10lb. test I fill the spool 1/2 way to capacity with a special tape I have that is going nowhere anytime soon...no need to cut my bails off any longer, smoothest retrieve I have ever felt this side of an abel fly reel, I can creme those things and dunk them while night wading for walleyes under a full moon and it will keep on going, I was lucky enough to find a few for far less than common retail... no more ole green and whites for me and I never thought I would say that....

best, Trav

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