Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

It's almost Brewer's Time!!

I know some might disagree, but I feel prime brewers grub time is yet to come, as the water heats up considerably this next week, things will start hopping and bass will start a chasin'.....anyone who wasn't following all the press I gave it on here last year, consider adding it to your arsenal,,,I made quite a few converts last year on my boat...... JOHN G

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Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

It is almost past prime time.

John.
46 F is plenty warm enough.
Targeting panfish in areas largely inappropriate
for early bass i have already taken many incidental bass including good ones.
I am not making a selection for your waters , merely assuring your readers that PROPERLY fished the Brewer is a very effective ice out presentation.
dick.

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 PM:

More info Please

Well John & Mr Jig, Care to clue us in on the Brewer grub?

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Dick, somehow, I just knew that statement would get you out of hiding! why don't you come back and treat them to a little brewer info? and Nicky, that message you had for me, said Beep me and a phone number? Im not sure is that actually a beeper? Let me know.... JOHN G

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 PM:

Yes it is

But don't worry about it I got my answer from Frank.

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Posted by bink on 2002 PM:

Please do post Dick, this is a method i very much want ot learn. I used the 1/8oz head and four inch worm today and got a ton of "machine gun" like hits but no hook ups. I also wonder how you fish the brewer Grub(or if you use it at all).

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Posted by commuter on 2002 PM:

John i was thinking about your Brewer's Grub's the other day when I caught that baby bass!
Where do you get em?
Bill

Posted by mr jig on 2002 AM:

Re: the amazing Brewer Grub.

I have written extensively about the Brewer Grub on Bronzeback.
The early posts were the most comprehensive but the search function there now displays only 2 years.
I just checked and those interested need only do a keyword search using brewer grub to get A LOT of information.

I selected one of my posts that i recently put up, that was a response to John.
I will paste it here as an example of what remains available at BB search.
My fishing time (at least part of every day) makes it impossible for me to compile a treatise on the use of "Sir Brewer" but i will try to respond to individual questions.
Here is the transplant from BB:

Thanks John for the seasons end summary. Unlike you , i used the Brewer slider system very little last year. I have absolute confidence in the Brewer approach having used it since the late Charlie introduced it in the 70 s. This past year i wanted to develop my understanding of the Senko, and as a result i had to leave my standbys somewhat neglected. Responding to your observations, from many years of intensive use of the Brewer family of gear and technique, i'd offer the following: You are going in the right direction with the rod as it lengthens. I have long favored 6.5 and consider the 4-5 ft models that Charlie advocated to have been a cruel Joke on Brewer customers!! I almost always use the 3 inch bass grub for smallmouth rather than the worm. I like all the dark colors, my favorites being the smoke glitter (dark days) and the avacado glitter in bright sun. In 2000 i started used the new water mellon with good results. Electric blue is very effective on limited waters. Junebug is fine. I use these grubs exclusively on the Spider style slider head and as you pointed out, you must order the 1/4 oz to get a tad under 1/8 which is what i use most frequently. Remind me to tell you some day about the conversation i had with the Brewer folks on why the heads are 50% underweight) !! I use the 4 inch worm only rarely and on the Original model head, and i use it only with a slow, straight retrieve sliding high in the column after a high weather system is in control. With the grub i use several retreives but mostly.... as you describe, i steadily glide in the bottom 20-30% of the water column, pausing at about 5 turn intervals to get several drops... and also assure continuous proper relationship to bottom. For my smallmouth Brewer fishing i use old 8.6 Tectan .008 dia. If i was forced to buy off the shelf i'd select as you have, a 6lb small dia line. Perhaps XL. Something in the 8.5 thou. range. It is interesting to note that the 3 inch grub and the 4 inch worm each weighs 43 grains. The supposedly 1/4 oz spider head weighs 50 gr which is a tad less than 1/8!! Combined with either body you are throwing only about 15% short of 1/4 oz. Whoda thought?? Sorry to have offered you nothing new John, but we do have some newer participants here (BB) who may have an interest in our thread? Oh yes a ps. All colors of the mid sized brewer grub are now defective and will tail wiggle only at high speed or in current. The 3 inch so far is still ok. If you return the defective mid sized ones, they will graciously ship more of the same, but as the mold is wrong all the mid sized grubs all suffer the same affliction. mr jig

Here is a current ps:
One may safely ignore the described "machine gun hits" on either the worm or the grub. Panfish nip on the tail.
DON'T make this problem worse by selecting a color with a contrasting tip!
Not striking on these nuciance nibbles is hard to learn!
As to real takes, during a straight retrieve the tip will often load slightly which will first be signaled by a change in line angle from tip to the water surface. React!! The bass most often comes up from behind engulfs and swims along for a time.
A take during the pauses will be a typical "tic" React !!
15 minutes late already.
Gotta run.
mr jig

Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 AM:

Mr. Jig

Thanks for the explaination.

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Posted by bink on 2002 AM:

Thanks Dick i remember reading that at BB but I still wonder about your conversation with the Brewers folks on the real weights of thier heads.

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Posted by bink on 2002 AM:

I just did a search and now know the story(I may have read it before and forgot) and it is interesting. I really have to practice the hook set,I easily missed 5 fish because i had my rod tip to low and I'm not used to the dragging feeling as you silde over every rock and stump. I got the Video late last Fall and like it even with its goofyness and ordered the Book and some grubs from the web site 6 weeks ago but IMHO the Book Stinks but about two weeks ago a new package came from them with some new sample colors.

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Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 PM:

John......almost?????

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Phil, the nipping of the lure is a good thing! it tells you two things: first of all, they see it (color is fine), second of all, you are running it at depths where fish are, and third....did I say only two?.....thirdly, it means you are running it a speed that will attract them........now , you are in business, if you run that retrieve at that speed at that depth, sooner or later you will hit on the big boys...however, the hookset, steady gentle almost a reel set of sorts, easy does it....first reel in ALL of the slack point the rod at the fish and bring it up smooth and gradual while reeling at the same time! Once you get the hang of it, it is not only effective but relaxing....

and Earthy, almost indeed, almost ready to kick your butt with it when we get out amigo!! LOL...... JOHN G

Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

not being a smart A__ BUT, the only thing I have used to date this early season is a hair jig either bounced or swam....Clue me in(for the sake of others better understanding)...when hair and when a brewers and could one get by with just hair?

best, T

Posted by mr jig on 2002 AM:

Get by with hair?

T. Of course one COULD get by with "just hair".
Hair is perhaps the single most effective pre spawn presentation.
Why then use a Brewer?
Perhaps you failed to read my admittedly long post above, in which i mentioned that the Brewer on a spider head is essentially snagless even with wood litter on the bottom.
I fish the Brewer like hair to cream the easy ones in an area without spending time re tying snagged jigs,or worse still, disturbing an area to rescue one.
Then, before leaving an area i make a few hair presentations for those bass that WILL hit hair when they won't hit plastic. Why?? Beats me, Ask them!

Since you apparently didn't read my longer post above,you may not realize that when i say hair i am not referring to the common shaving brush hair jigs with a weed guard and dressed with pork or plastic trailer. That is a whole other presentation that i will leave for others.
The hair to which i refer is a slim classic hair jig that is used without dressing.

Particularly when it comes to the period ice out to just before nest building, when it comes to Smallmouths in Oli to Meso lakes, i want hair AND the Brewer.
mr jig.

Posted by Dean on 2002 AM:

Nice job Mr. Jig and John G. Thanks for the info.

Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

No , actually Mr. Jig I doubt highly if you carry what many consider a "bass jig"....after a few years and many emails I am not as obtuse as to think that you were referencing anything but what WE would call a hair jig....if the "old" wood in a certain place that I have heard about from you didn't exist.....then would hair only be an option, just curious because the only wood I see when fishing for SM's is when I look down and see my spinning rod handle...BTW the post that you supplied here I already had on disc.

best always, T