Posted by lastcastme on 2002 AM:
Is Bigger Always Better??
I have heard many
different opinions
on this subject.What is yours?
Many pros and otherwise fisherman say,
"If you want to catch BIG fish,you have to cast BIG baits."I have
read where some guys use a 13" or larger,plastic worm to entice the hawgs
that roam the deeps.I have also heard or read of guys using the smallest jigs,and
landing the biggest fish.Shed some light on this subject for me and whomever
else might be pondering these things.Thanks
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Posted by Max10 on 2002 AM:
I'm of the opinion that
small lures catch large fish...at times. There is a large following that
believes that at times a bass will take a snack, rather than want a full meal.
I have managed to catch my larger bass on 4 inch finesse worms fished very
slowly as well as a couple of small Rapalas being worked very slowly on the
surface....
Like I say though, opinion.
Charlie Brewer's Slider Company is founded and successful employing the premise
that larger is not better....I couldn't argue with his success....he's caught
me a lot of nice fish.
Good fishing, Mac
Posted by JPBass on 2002 AM:
I don't believe there is a general answer to your question. It would depend on the disposition of the fish and the forage in the area on any given day. As Max said, sometimes they're looking for a snack and sometimes they want that whole meal. But don't let anybody tell you a small bait can't catch big fish. I've landed many a lunker on 4" worms and the like when larger offerings were completely ignored.
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Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 AM:
It is not the law. I've based my whole fishing approach on scaling down baitsize. You will start to see how successful that can be. By doing that, you increase the number of bites you get from all fish. Do you think that any size bass is going to pass up a free meal????? Put a small bait in front of a bass and it will bite. Think of it this way....you hear stories of guys sight fishing for big bass......what baits to the rely on????? Small tubes, miniscule hairjigs and finesse worms. You don't hear of anyone lobbing 10" worms at spawners. True big baits usually catch bigger fish becasue you eliminate the smaller fish. They may attack a larger bait but fail to become hooked. But by using larger baits , you will significantly decrease yuour bites...I guarantee that. I'll let you in on a little secret when I see you tomorrow. Remind me at the meeting.
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Posted by earthworm77 on 2002 AM:
That 20lber from Cal. that was caughgt on a big swim bait is the sight fishing exception.
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Posted by Max10 on 2002 PM:
Earthworm, just was coming back to post about your company's approach by making mico baits and what do I find? You've already submitted a very well written superlative post on the subject....I'll try to be quicker the next time. Good fishing, Mac
Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:
Everyone of my biggest fish were caught on small or reatively small lures...however, I think that if you limit yourself to only the biggest lures, you may catch less fish but bigger ones if you do... JOHN G
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Posted by Scott C on 2002 PM:
Although I believe smaller is better from my experiences check out this fish. Not huge but about 15 inches going after a 12" worm. It was a cold morning just after a front. They hit nothing that I threw at any speed until I pulled one of these snakes out. Then it was all out craziness until all six that I had were torn to pieces.......some toothy critters took 6 inches or so on a few to have as souveniers. I believe that the type of large bait can also be a factor, and how its worked.
Posted by Mark G on 2002 AM:
Seems like the Toolbaox Analogy Fits Again
I've always loved the
toolbox analogy for these situations. If you are unframiliar with it it basically
states that X is like a toolbox. In this case, X is a tackle box. You need to
use the right tool for the job. In Scott's case that day, the right tool was a
12" worm. It was what the bass wanted that day based on weather/water
conditions etc. It probably wouldn't be the right tool on another day based on
other conditions.
I heard this metaphor used on everything from golf to poker. You wouldn't use a
2 iron to putt any more than you would check raise with a drawing hand any more
than you would use a wrench to drive in a nail. One of the joys of fishing
since I've rediscovered it has been finding a pattern that works. That includes
finding the right locations, understanding weather and water conditions, types
of forage, time of day, etc. and then putting all that info together, selecting
the right lure and presenting it properly. Finding the right tool for the job,
so to speak. Believe me, I'm still a novice at it, but with time, patience and
lots of practice, I'll improve.
I would add one caveat to that theory. Big bass will eat small baits more
readily than small bass will eat big baits. Or rather, there are almost no
baits to small to attract big fish, but there are DEFINITELY baits that are too
big to attract small fish.
Mark
Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:
Agreed Mark.
Ok....now does anybody know where to get more of these 12" babies ? I
bought these up in the Adirondacks last year and havent been able to
find them here on LI. I dont usually like to order these from catalogs due to
color discrepencies. Worst case I can probably get more in a few weeks when I
go up there again.
PS they work really well for striped bass and weakfish as well trailed behind a
bucktail....
Posted by Mark G on 2002 AM:
I have some Berkeley 10" black power worms in my
box that I got at Sports Authority, but I haven't seen 12" worms in any
stores.
HTH,
Mark
Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:
Yeah...these are somewhat unique. Thats why I bought them. They are really thick and weigh a ton. Also the tail is particularly wide as you can see. These things really do look like snakes in the water. Like I said I tried all sorts of things at this lake including an assortment of worms....these drew strikes instantly.
Posted by patx on 2002 AM:
Elephants eat peanuts - dont
they?
IMHO - Bigger is better at night because of the profile thing, however, I
happen to think that because most of the waters that we fish are pressured so
often, that the bigger fish become acustomed to seeing a wide variety of baits.
In that case, a smaller, more finesse approach usually works. Its because it is
different - not its size.
Just my opinion.
Pat Xiques
Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:
This was one of my beliefs when I bought and used these worms. There were tons of them in these buckets at the tackle store and all the common sizes were pretty much sold out. I figured what the heck lets try something different....and it worked. Now I want to go out and sling some snakes again !
Posted by willmullis on 2002 PM:
If a big bass is hungry it will probably hit any sized lure. The only benefit I see is that the smaller bass should leave you alone if you use a big enough bait.
Posted by lastcastme on 2002 PM:
12" Worms
ScottC,I have some
12"Culprit Worms i
got from BPS they are Tequila Shad.
When I see you again remind me to give you a few.I also have some 10" in
June Bug and Black Shad,your welcome to some of those too!
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Posted by Scott C on 2002 PM:
Thanks Partner !
Did you ever have any luck with them ? This was your thread about big bait and
now you are givinthem away .... ?
Posted by lastcastme on 2002 PM:
I have not used them yet!
But you seem to have had success
with them!!!!
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Posted by Scott C on 2002 PM:
send them into cover and hold on !
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