Posted by upsavr on 07-10-2003 11:08 PM:

if you could choose only 1 worm

if you could choose only 1 worm for working a weedline that has a slight drop off what brand, type and color would you choose now?!
i am not talking senko i am talking texas rigging with a screw in weight application

Posted by NO LUCK on 07-10-2003 11:10 PM:

6 inch Motor Oil Power Worm...

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Posted by JOHN G on 07-10-2003 11:24 PM:

Aye Managgia with these posts! LOL........

okay, everyone have their fun...

UpSavr: you will now see an endless procession of about 20 to 30 replies, each one mentioning another color or length or brand......

after sifting through the myriad possibilities, you will be no closer to the holy grail than you are now! LOL

so before the games begin, I will give you the absolute best piece of advice possible:

1. go into the best fishing tackle store you have IN YOUR AREA...

2.look on the wall and see the colors of worms that they mostly seem to carry

3. Pick out about a half dozen, no more, of the most commonly represented colors.

4. Get out and put hours in on the water, try all 6, try them at different times, different locations, at your local haunts.

5. Get out and put HOURS in on your local waters ( did I say that already? LOL)

after July and August of doing just that, you will know exactly what color to use and throw on your waters for the summer!

HAVE FUN!!

now that the Kill joy portion of this thread has ended, everyone else can have their fun! LOL.....

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Posted by Senkosam on 07-11-2003 06:47 AM:

Weedlines are different when comparing tidal water, lakes, small rivers, deep, highland lakes and shallow, lowland lakes.
I would use a bulkier worm (Gator Tail by Ditto or an 8" thick paddle tail worm) for Hudson R. weedlines. The fish seem to respond more aggressively with bulkier worms.

In a lake where 'deep' is only 10', Phenom, medium Brush Hogs and slimmer designs may outproduce Gator Tails.

Bassmaster's recent issue relates worm-style options:
1. color (least important since one or two work 98% of the time)
2. tail configuration
3. length
and
1. sinker wt.
2. line diameter
3. rod length

These factors are a large part of worming and supersede color alone. It comes down to retrieve and speed of drop as well as the type of cover worked and depth the plastic is worked or working.

Once upon a time, all the literature about worming were in consensus that the rod tip was the only way to work a worm.
The issue I spoke of states that the reel handle is all that's needed, at times, to move the worm slightly (drop shot or bottom dragging.) Ditto for pegged sinkers and off-shank vs. straight shank hooks - sometimes good, sometimes unpreferable.

The key word is lure speed, as usual, and in two planes (vertical and horizontal. Give me combos of the above for super slow, slow, medium and fast, and I'll know if you know what it takes to be a good worm fisherman. If all you chuck is a 1/8 oz. sinker and a 6" curly tail worm on 8 lb. test mono from a 5' 6" fiberglass rod, you've pretty much told me the limitations you'll face in many situations. This is not to say you won't catch bunches of fish, but the combo will be far less efficient in many waters or types of water.

Diversity, as always, is playing the odds. No one technique or lure has been proven to be the only one in town for all situations. Fishing with someone illustrates that simple lesson time and time again. Someone will catch quality and quantity, while the other is just working his rod. I have 5 rods set up at all times for a quick-change and hopefully recognize certain conditions, for the right change.

FrankM

Posted by HookUp on 07-11-2003 08:02 AM:

No worm this year

For some reason the coveted worms hasn't helped me bring the big bass to the boat.

But what has worked ....

Tube, Green Pumpkin w/ Red Flake, 1/16 - 1/8 oz internal tube jig

Been spank'n 'em on my river with these.

Last year - Charlie Case Magic Stix in Natural (pumpkin), 3/0 EWG, 1/32 - 1/16 oz pegged

Posted by HugeFish4 on 07-11-2003 08:51 AM:

7 inch Powerworm w/ribbontail in Junebug. My go to worm.

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Posted by Charlie on 07-11-2003 09:01 AM:

5" Rainbow Trout Senko

Tight Lines!
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Posted by joe p on 07-11-2003 09:27 AM:

7 inch Black or blue fleck Powerworm

Posted by Lpbassman on 07-11-2003 09:30 AM:

Upsavr,
Dont listen to these "rank amatures" LOL. OK listen to Hugefish!
If you have not tried throwing a 4" SLIDER worm, you need to! Our beloved EVIL TYRANT will back me up I'm sure. I will not try to say that power worms and the like dont work, they certainly do. However, do not get youself caught up in a 1 bait or 1 worm habbit. BE VERSATILE! I use Senkos, Tubes, Craws and all kinds and brands of worms but, I will throw a SLIDER worm with either a 1/8 or 1/4 oz SPIDER head on a weed edge with a slight drop off long before even thinking of a Texas rigged worm.
COLORS: JUNEBUG/CHARTRUESE TAIL #1 #1 #1
Motoroil/Firetail...Plum Glitter/Chartreuse tail #'s 2 & 3
Charlie Brewer's (SLIDER MFGR) has just come out with a new color--Watermelon Seed / Chart tail. I just ordered some on line yesterday cause they looked good enough for me to eat!
Just my humble opinion....even though I am right! LOL LOL LOL

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Posted by skeeter195 on 07-11-2003 01:40 PM:

4 inch black Berkely power worn on a 1/4 oz spider head with the 2/0 hook. I have cut back some now, but used to go through 100 plus heads and 400-500 black worms a year.

Posted by Bass Rat on 07-11-2003 04:00 PM:

This is a question that could render 100 different responces. Each one telling you a different color, size and brand. So rather than telling you my favorite I will throw out some advise.
1-Keep it simple

2-Limit color selections to Light colors (white), Dark colors (blacks) and Natural colors( Pumpkin seeds, Watermelons, Shad).

3- Don't buy every color under the sun. I did in the begining and wound up giving away 80% of those baits.

4- At any given time many different patterns will work. The trick is confidence. Once you start to consistently catch fish on a given color & brand you will find that this bait will consistently produce for you. Yes, partly because of the bait, but more so because of your confidence in the fact that this bait works. This might be hard to beleive right now. But I guarantee it will work. Been there, done that.

Good Luck

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Posted by Bink on 07-11-2003 04:24 PM:

Culprit worm in Red Shad or Producto worm Black w/Blue tail both in 6 inch sizes but I am trying the larger sizes this weekend.

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Posted by Marty on 07-12-2003 12:12 AM:

quote:

Originally posted by Lpbassman

If you have not tried throwing a 4" SLIDER worm, you need to! Our beloved EVIL TYRANT will back me up I'm sure. I will not try to say that power worms and the like dont work, they certainly do. However, do not get youself caught up in a 1 bait or 1 worm habbit. BE VERSATILE! I use Senkos, Tubes, Craws and all kinds and brands of worms but, I will throw a SLIDER worm with either a 1/8 or 1/4 oz SPIDER head on a weed edge with a slight drop off long before even thinking of a Texas rigged worm.

LP (or anyone else), I have just bought my first Slider 4" worms (currently enroute from BPS). Could you briefly fill me in on the pluses/minuses of using them with conventional Texas rigs vs. Slider heads? Thanks in advance.

Posted by JOHN G on 07-12-2003 05:40 PM:

Marty: slider worms are made specifically to be used with slider heads....unlike regular worming, they are designed to be swam, very slowly and LP of course, uses a variation of that, with a very deliberate lift and drop not unlike T=-Rig worming only much slower, however, from a design point of view that were meant to resemble minnows or other moving or swimming forage, and purposely with very very little action.....

the philosophy of slider fishing is very subltely natural with no eccentric movements that we often give our other lures and baits.......

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Posted by Marty on 07-13-2003 07:31 PM:

Thanks John, I should be receiving them tomorrow. I already own some Slider heads, so I'll give 'em a shot.

Posted by FISH_KING on 07-13-2003 09:03 PM:

6 inch motor oil colored power worm, best worm there is in my opinion

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Posted by labsrus on 07-14-2003 09:38 PM:

On the Finger Lakes I have had my best luck with a 4" finese worm. My largest fish this year 20" Largemouth came on June bug color V and M finese worm fished slowly near a grass line.

My second choice would be a black worm 7 to 8 inch with a ribbon tail. This usually works good around the grass.

Posted by bearpaw on 07-14-2003 11:07 PM:

The all around worm, That works anywhere probably in the world is a black worm. Whether it be curly tail, ribbon tailed, sickle tailed, senko, or whatever tailed. The Black worm is the ultimate. I often rig people for thier first time fishing with plastics, with a black worm or a dark worm. If the bite is slow put on a black worm. I don't follow this most of the time because I often forget the basics LOL.
But that is my one single plastic for all around fishing. Then carrying around some spike it is not cheating. You did say 1 bait.

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Posted by Scottb on 07-15-2003 06:20 AM:

I seem to do best on a green pumpkin ZOOM 4" c-tail on an 1/8 ounce Owner Ultimate head (slider style head). This seems to coax bass of all sizes and is especially deadly on finicky smallies. My next choice would be a 4" dead ringer ring worm in green pumpkin or watermelon/red.
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