Posted by Hugh Crumpler on 2002 AM:

Stick Marsh & Farm 13 Catching Report

From: "Hugh Crumpler"
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Subject: Stick Marsh & Farm 13 Catching Report
Date: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:03 AM

Catching at Stick Marsh & Farm 13 continues to be very good. Where ever you want to go bass catching in Florida it does not matter. Same day, same time; it is always better at Stick Marsh and Farm 13. The reasons are: one; Stick Marsh & Farm 13 are Catch and Release for bass- they are there and they just grow; two; the two lakes are PERFECT habitat for bass- every squared inch by length, by girth, by depth is perfect for bass- no other body of water is like that; and the third major reason; is the constantly changing current- current stimulates feeding. And this place gets alot of stimulation!

The water levels are excellent. Not too deep and not too shallow. Manuvering the boat is relatively safe and the cover is within reach of a shallow running crankbait. The bass are in the cover. They come to the edge of the cover to feed. That pattern applies to both Stick Marsh and to Farm 13. The pattern rule applies to the trees as well as the grass. To catch bass in Stick Marsh drift the lake casting your preferred bait. The important technique (whatever the lure) is that when the lure is near a piece of wood- keep it there. This can be accomplished by feel. When fishing grass the grass line can be at the surface, just under the surface OR the sides of the grass in a hole. Place the lure close to the edge of the grass in a hole. NOT the center of the hole. It is not bedding time when the center is where you want the lure. It is just that something underwater prevented grass from growing- be it hard bottom or an old stump.

It has come to my attention that many time when talking about using the Texas rigged worms we really have been using the Florida rig worms. SO..........from now on we are going to call a Florida rig a Flroida rig. The difference is only slight. Attention to detail is important in bass catching. This detail difference may make a difference in your catching. A Florida rig (when rigged) looks like a Texas rig. The difference is that a Florida rig sinker has a cork screw on the end of the sinker that holds the worm in place. The idea is that the sinker pulls the worm through the vegetation. So........my apologies for misleading you in reports past..

At this time Stick Marsh bass can be caught by drifting Stick Marsh and working the trees with a Florida rig worm. You can not see the vast majority of trees. Just cast out there and let the lure sink WITH SLACK LINE! Then slowly drag the worm. When you feel "extra weight" it is probably a tree limb. Then keep dragging the worm- the first bump is when the worm slips off the limp- IMMEDIATELY drop the rod tip-do not reel- with SLACK let the worm sink. Prepare to set the hook. This is when most bites come. Gently lift up on the worm and feel for a bass. No bass? continue as before Bass- then set the hook! Fish the vegetation the same way. The drop is when the bite comes.

In Farm 13 the primary areas to fish the Florida rig are along the old canal walls. The top and the sides. Most are visible by the grass lines on the surface. There is also a constantly changing buzzbait bite. I love to use my BabyBassBoats(TM). They were designed with the vegetation of Farm 13 and the trees of Stick Marsh in mind. The 1/4 ounce head, with medium blade and chartruce and white skit seems to be the most preferred size and color. Stan Daniels caught the first ten pound bass caught on a BabyBassBoat(TM) on that color and size. The bass was his largest and was caught in Farm 13. Ten pounds and six ounces. The bite was so Awesome that Stan was talking about the bite before he got the bass into the boat. When she hit she came all the way out of the water and soared skyward with the BabyBassBoat(TM) fully engulfed in her U-MONGUS MOUTH. The buzzbait bite is enhanced by low light such as early morning and cloud cover.

Yesterday, the water was shut off. No water coming in and no water going out. So, the lakes should fish as a lake. Wind driven current can happen- but the wind was not up enough to create current yesterday. A very good flipping and pitching bite is developing. For those of you who know how to flip and pitch vegetation Flroida Pro Style it is easy for you to find and locate the bass. If you do not know how- in the field education with an expert is the only way to go. It looks simple; it is simple' but, it is hard to learn. Sometimes very frustrating. I very seldom see anyone pursuiting the bass wtih this method in Stick Marsh and Farm 13.

Hugh Crumpler guides on Stick Marsh and Farm 13. Hugh;s website is www.HughCrumpler.Com , e-mail is bsncaoch@gate.net and phone is 321-722-3134. God Bless You, Hugh Crumpler III.

Posted by Gregg on 2002 PM:

I love to use my BabyBassBoats(TM).

Then it's a good thing you make and sell them!
spam within spam!

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Gregg, although Hugh obviously has a product or service to sell, he nevertheless gave a lot of detailed information about those waters and several of our members do go to Florida and have fished them, so the report is certainly of value here.... JOHN G

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Posted by Bulletweight on 2002 AM:

So your saying it's not exactly spam, it's more like some kind of an info-mertial???

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Posted by Mark from NY on 2002 AM:

Thanks Hugh for the detailed report. I have been coming down for 2 years now, usually in late Feb. I am making this an every year ordeal now that my parents are retired. So keep the reports coming.

Along with spending a couple days at the Marsh this year I am planning a trip to the "Big O"

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Posted by Gregg on 2002 PM:

Your right John

Mr. Crumpler gives a very nice report, and I bet he knows his fishing. Just would like to see him participating more!

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Posted by Woody on 2002 PM:

Doc...I have to respectfully disagree

The way I read the article he is hawking HIMSELF and HIS BAITS.
Fishing is great...Come on down...Come to think of it..While you are here...Hire me...Want Big Fish...Use My Baits
If you are looking to fish in Florida with a Guide...He will provide everything you need...
Free publicity to hawk...is not what this place is about.
The above statements are MY OPINION.
Regards
Woody

Posted by Rob J in WNY on 2002 PM:

It is a tad on the 'spammistic' side, but...

I do have to say that Hugh and I have shared some very nice email report in the recent weeks. Sure, it would be nice if he participated more in the 'meat and potatoes' topics of this board, but, to his credit, I'd actually have to say that his intentions are nothing but good - even if it is, in fact, business oriented.

Hugh, when the times and inquiries arise, why not share some of your experience in NY waters, such as the 1000 Islands/St. Lawrence River tournament fishing you have done, please. I was quite impressed with your bass fishing stories from there.

Tight Lines...

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Posted by Woody on 2002 PM:

Rob...I am not saying he is not a nice guy

I am saying I have seen the exact same report on another internet site that seems to list competing guide services for that particular area...
I have no wish to see that start here...that's all
Hugh fire away about ANY waters you are familiar within let's say the Tri State area.
All the best,
Woody

Posted by Rob J in WNY on 2002 PM:

Woodster...

Never thought that of your post, buddy.

There's no doubt that he's beyond copying/pasting when it comes to email conversations at least. I'm sure he makes sure to hit all the colder, northern states' fishing boards with the identical report every week.

Tight Lines...

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Posted by Paul Mattie on 2002 AM:

To the Board Police,

There are no minimum nor maximums established to participate in this board. By definition spam is UNWANTED, but Mark from NY and myself and possibly others WANT to read the reports so it's NOT spam.

If you don't want to read the reports DON"T. No individual is required to come on and post on any specific topic; why should he? If you guys want to know something about his NE experince why don't you email him? It seems like his responses to RobJ have been satisfactory.

Regards,

Paul

Posted by Woody on 2002 AM:

Board Police Paul....Spare me

I assume you are refering to me...
That is my OPINION and I stand by it..
Hey Paul,You can get that baby bass boat lure (a $10 buzzbait) just so happens to be sold on the WEBSITE that is listed.
I have also been informed that Hugh is an excellent guide and a great guy.
Cheers,
Woody

Posted by JPBass on 2002 AM:

I for one enjoy out of state reports. I do some traveling during the winter months, have fished the stick marsh, and like hearing about it.

BUT..... Some guides have been known to exaggerate the truth. This is no reflection on Hugh. I don't know him. And if Paul and Woody say he's a reputable individual and a good guide that's good enough for me.

With the exception of a couple that I know personally I have yet to hear a guide say " don't bother coming, the fishing sucks". Or "they're doing better at lake so and so, try over there".

Cold fronts in Florida are common during the winter months and can really shut down the bite. Most (not all) guides will still be more than happy to take your money.

As far as hawking their wears. As long as it's accompanied by an accurate report, it doesn't bother me.

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Posted by Paul Mattie on 2002 AM:

No not just you Woody. Why are Hugh's posts questioned even after John made it clear that HC's posts are w/in the framework of the board and are accecptable? Why should a vocal "moral minority" control what appears on these pages? Just because it's not their "home waters" that are being discussed or the guy is in the fishing business? How many guys on this board who aren't sponsors try to sell things over the years that have never been questioned? You can pm me for a long list of spammers that visit and post on this board only when they have something to sell.

Everyone has a different reason for visiting these boards and we shouldn't all be made to conform to your's or anyone elses views other than the moderators. I don't see his reports anywhere on the web I visit so i'm glad they are here.

We can end this all now........I say again.....when you see Stick Marsh w Hugh Crumpler don't click on it. Please don't take my choice away in the meantime.

Posted by Woody on 2002 AM:

Oh Paul

I have sent you a PM...
It may shed light....Let's continue our conversation OFF the boards.
Thanks,
Woody

Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Exactly, where they should be at this point: Paul is the only one who got it right from my first reply.....by the way, anyone looking into the history of Mr Crumpler will be slightly amazed at some of the contributions he has made towards bass fishing in general over a long career.......... JOHN G

Posted by FrankBee on 2002 PM:

Mr Crumpler

This one is so intricate! IMHO Paul is most definitely correct. (although I think "questioning" is always welcome!) And yet, amazingly, so is everybody else! You gotta admit the whole thing would be a little less murky if Mr. Crumpler didn't attach his name to a report that seems as if were written by some robot computer in the Stick Marsh PR department and sent out to every google-able fishing site in the known universe!

Thanks Mr Crumpler for all of your great products and I'll be seeing you again this January at Stick Marsh and Farm13! Frank

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Posted by Gregg on 2002 AM:

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by the way, anyone looking into the history of Mr Crumpler will be slightly amazed at some of the contributions he has made towards bass fishing in general over a long career.

That doesn't make his post not spam. To post solely to advertise is spam. Even if there are some people who like to read them his purpose is to advertise.

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Why are Hugh's posts questioned even after John made it clear that HC's posts are w/in the framework of the board and are accecptable?

The reply's are within the framework also, No one has attacked him. I have commented on his post that's all. Most people have stated his a nice guy and knows his fishing.

I can also encourage him to join in more, dose he have to? Of cause not. I think it might show he did care you like the reports for reports not just dumping ground for spam. But that's my opinion doesn't mean anybody has to listen it's just an opinion which is within the framework of the board.

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 AM:

Hey I have an idea Buddy, we'll throw Stick Marsh on our fishing trip wish list! HAHAHHA......Gregg, you KNOW it would be a pisser to fish that place, you can just imagine! JOHN G

Posted by Gregg on 2002 AM:

Sure I game! We driving or flying?

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Posted by canoe on 2002 AM:

I had never heard of Hugh Crumpler, Stick Marsh or Farm 13 until earlier this week. I was searching for bass fishing reports in Florida and came upon some real good info. Try www.stickmarsh.com. It includes past fishing reports by week. I also learned that Hugh Crumpler was kind of the first guy there and everyone knows who he is. I understand that guides are businessmen, but their success depends on knowing the water, the fish and adapting to conditions. I am considering booking a trip for Feb/March and will continue my research of possible conditions and guide choices. (Man, I love the internet!) Personally, I don't mind the occasional product plug. This site has done an excellent job of providing useful information. I use my own judgement when specific products are discussed. But, I now have a Shimano Stradic, BPS Extreme Rod, Trilene Sensation, Senkos, Micromunch Jigs and spinnerbaits, D-Barb tool and am preparing my Christmas list based largely on products discussed on this site. Y'all have been an excellent source of knowledge and information. Thank you and keep it coming.