Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 PM:

WAMPUS FACE OFF: $enkology vs. stickology

i met up with L.Ron Senko(aka jefflang BVS) at wampus pond this morning for a face off: his senkos on a gammy vs. my BPS stick-os on XPS hooks... we launch the porta-bote at 6:30 am and both find immediate action...we worked the same outer weedlines that were successful at the BBQ and managed 20+ bass and 1 pickerel in the boat by 9:30... both baits were catching fish, but the stick-o no doubt held up better than the senko... with the sun strong after 10am, the fish turned off for a couple hours but we managed to find a pattern in shoreline cover once some shade hit around 11:30...we worked all the great laydowns along the shady shoreline and managed to put a total of 30+ bass in the boat total for the day... with a lot of nice size, too!...although we didn't count, jeff and i for the most part caught the same number of fish and had a blast out there nailing bass in the middle of august...so for now, the stick-o is looking real good at 3.99 for 20... and fyi, there were 2 gut-hooked fish( 1 for jeff, 1 for me) which were quickly relieved of their hooks with the d-barb tool and released.. every other fish was hooked in the corner of the lip.

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Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

nice outing guys-informative--glad the d-barb was there to save those 2 chug a lug gluttons--bobn

Posted by JeffLang BVS on 2002 PM:

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Me and Mike in the Portoclam!

Soon as we hit the water we knew it was going to be a good day. Mikes first cast was slammed (The fish missed the topwater bait) In the first hour we had 10 plus fish all good sized with average over 2 pounds a couple aound 4lb The Senko and the Senko Rippoff (LOL) where the baits of the day. Soon as the sun got fully high around 10am the fishing turned off!!!! We got some takes lost a few pickerils but it was not untill 12:30 Before we got back on them. Mike was putting his bait in some hard spots right up on shore and Bam he found us a new pattern and landed the next four fish (This guy has learned alot!!!) I got a few more. Ended up a GREAT day! Me and Mike have had a Great time getting Skunked together But 30+ fish made the day even more awsome. All my fish where on SENKOS not the rip off's. But it looks like BPS did a good job copying a great bait not 100% but there but close. I will stick with the guy's who inventied it.

Jeff BVS

Posted by Gr8tSacandaga on 2002 PM:

Excellent Report Mike! Sounds like an awesome day! 30 + bass on a August Day, Excellent job! And glad to hear the BPS model Stick-O worked out for you!

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Posted by Pete L on 2002 PM:

Way to go guy`s!!!!! sounds like a hell of a day!!!

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Posted by Gregg on 2002 PM:

Clubhouse Rules

Wampus is an awesome little pond for a face off!
Did one of you Drink Coke the other Pepsi? LOL
Good work guys

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Posted by "Wild Bill" on 2002 PM:

Wampus ??

Where is Wampus?
Great report, both on the fishing, and on the side-by-side fish-off between the Senko and the Stick-o. Sounds like you two had an awesome day.
While I have thrown a TON of Senkos, and done really well with them, I have never yet tried the BPS version , yet. How did they compare as far as fall rate? Does the Senko drop faster? If so, by much?
Were you using the BPS hooks that look like the G-locks, or the round bends? Your feelings on them? How do they compare in size to Gammies of the same style?
Yeah, I realize I asked alot of questions just now, but always anxious to learn more, and hone what I know already.
Much thanks !!

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Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

Bill: Wampus is a 40 acre row only "pond" in Armonk, technically a County park, although the grounds are very limited....boat rentals on the weekends from Memorial through Labor Day, you can launch your own for 4 bucks, or for 40 bucks you can get a permit to launch any time....no trollers allowed.......mucho weeds, two tremendous flats, lily pads and milfoil galore, however, the entire middle section is 25 feet deep and the far shore is a 45 degree angled tangle of blowdowns and rocks.....an very good mixture of many bassy patterns in one place...

Mike and Jeff, what a fabulous day there at this time of the year! just excellent! in the morning, what side did you start out on?

JOHN G

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Posted by "Wild Bill" on 2002 PM:

Sounds like a cool spot...

to throw my canoe out on as a "topwater" and to try to get rid of this huge pile of Senkos I got. Maybe try a few other tactics too,, depending upon conditions noted[and my crazy thoughts at the time] at the time. Anyone interested?
Can't go this Sunday, but got a fairly freeable schedule, for important stuff, like fishing bass. John, you do 'guiding 'there from a front canoe seat[har, har]?
Do you have to be a resident of that county to fish/use it?
Decent, safe parking? Not that I'm driving a "Rolls"{More like a war-wagon], mind you.

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Posted by Mark G on 2002 PM:

Great job, guys! 30 fish is a great day and those chunkers int he pics are beauts!

Bill--

Parking is fine and it is a great place for a canoe. I'd be happy to fish with you, although Gregg, John, Mike, Pete, John and many others would be better 'guides'. I've only fished it once, although I do know a good outer weedline or two.

It really is a nice little pond with many available patterns, especially in the morning and evening. Drop me an email if you want to head over there sometime...

Mark

Posted by Bigredfishing on 2002 AM:

well i am glad to see that my stick-o does work as well as a senko. And here, i thought i was just that much better than my buddy - LOL

Posted by lastcastme on 2002 AM:

GREAT DAY !!!!

Hey MikeD and BvS,Sounds like you guys had a really great day.Jeff,I know what you mean about fishing with MikeD,he is a good guy allaround and a pleasure to have on a boat.I havn't had the pleasure of fishing with Jeff as of yet,but I am sure we can work something out before the end of the season.Those are some nice looking fish too!Keep up the good work!!!

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Posted by dodgeguy on 2002 AM:

so is it going to be baron von stick o crap or stay baron von senko?or is mike taking the new titile?

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Posted by JeffLang BVS on 2002 AM:

I am staying Baron Von Senko!

Dodge, I am sticking with Baron von Senko If Mike wants to be Stick O Crap Dude that's cool with me! LOL Lastcast we have to fish together before the end of the season. I think you would enjoy Wampus. I am thinking about doing another BBQ at wampus before the season ends.

BVS

Posted by HugeFish4 on 2002 AM:

Great day in the heat in the middle of August! That little Wampus is some fishery; or is it the fishermen? Great Job! Damn those baits! LOL!

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Posted by JeffLang BVS on 2002 AM:

Huge I would be glad to take you out on wampus

And I wont force you to use senkos! LOL.

Jeff

Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 AM:

wild bill...yes, i was using the XPS offset hook which is similar to the G-lock...they are very sharp and appear to hold up just fine...they seem slightly smaller than the gammy's and are a bargain at 5 bucks for 25!... the stickos are very similar to the senkos... they have lots of salt impregnation, but less than the senko which causes them to drop a little slower...for some silly reason, they pack em in lots of salt, which rinses right off in one cast...i rinse the whole bag off before i go fishing cause it makes a mess of my tackle bag..another important thing to note is that the 6" sticko is the same size as the 5" senko...both are roughly 5 1/4"... the action on the sticko is excellent; virtually the same as the senko... i have tried only one other knock-off, which is from catch 'em lures, which i am not impressed with.... one thing i love about the sticko is that it holds up much better than the senko...although it will fall apart after a few fish because of the high salt content, the extra plastic helps it stay on the hook on those really hot days when the senko just seems to melt off the hook...i was getting so damn frustrated having to change the senko constantly even when i wasn't catching fish!... a few aggressive casts can rip a texposed senko right off the hook, no problem!....

one negative to the sticko is that the color selection is limited... i was using the green pumpkinseed with black flake while jeff was using the usual watermelon w/ black flake

now, i am not bashing the senko...i still love that beautiful salty stick of a bait and i totally understand why jeff or anyone else wouldn't want to use another... once you build confidence in a bait, it helps with your fishing...it's just that the sticko sells for $2 for 10 on sale compared to $6-7 bucks for 10 of the senko...plus, i go through less than 1/2 of the amount of stickos than i would a senko, which drops the price down another half!...i bought 10 bags of senkos a few weeks ago and spent 70 bucks... they're all gone now... in my mind, 50 stickos would have been just as effective and would have cost $10!!... so from now on the sticko is my go-to soft jerkbait!...call me names, look at me funny, but i'm the one with the extra moola to spend on important stuff like beer!

john... from the boat rentals area, we worked the left side weedy part of the pond, concentrating on the deeper weedlines, then moved to the shore with the laydowns once it got some shade.

fishing is good!

Posted by GMAN on 2002 AM:

Awesome day!

For you guys to stack those numbers this time of year!. I think I'll order some of those sticko's and make my buddies use them while I use the real deal, lol. Once I'm convinced, I'm in. You guys mentioned a D-barb tool in your post. Can you provide a little more detail on that puppy?. It kills be to gut hook a fish and spend so much time trying to release it only to ultimately cut the line. Thanks!

Posted by dodgeguy on 2002 AM:

mike d. alias stick o crap dude!!!

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Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 AM:

gman... go here and order one...you will not be disappointed!

D-BARB

dodge... i think "El Sticko" sounds tougher... or maybe "Count Sticko"...it's the "crap" part that doesn't work for me

Posted by Hooked Again on 2002 AM:

Great report guys. I need to get down and try that little wampus hole.
I've found the same thing in the little pond, stik o works about the same as the senko but holds up a little better. All the extra salt is a pain but other than that, a pretty good bait.

Mark,
I should get the boat registered next week, we can hit wampus one evening or on a weekend soon if you want.

Randy

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Posted by Mark G on 2002 AM:

Sounds great, Randy. Drop me an email or give me a buzz when you're set up with the boat...

Mark

Posted by bobn on 2002 AM:

g man-see the d-barb review under tackle and fishing tactics-bobn

Posted by joe pido on 2002 AM:

nice job, boys

Wampus fish looks fat ....

joe

Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 AM:

no doubt joe these fish were healthy...jeff is holding his fish closer to the camera...i was so impressed with it's gut that i wanted to make sure it showed up in the pic... i bet it was 4+ lbs

Posted by dodgeguy on 2002 PM:

el sticko!!!sounds good to me!!!

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