Posted by Johnkud on 07-15-2003 11:31 PM:

Opinion needed

Had a debate with a club member today and would like some feedback from you folks . I said that in a club where a NON boater is drawn to fish with a different boater every tournament that he is at a distict disadvantage to a non boater that fishes with SAME boater every tournament . I feel that fishing with different boaters every time makes the non boater have to adjust his fishing methods every time where as the non boater that fishes exclusively with the same boater doesn't . Any opions on this ???


Posted by BUDDYROW on 07-16-2003 12:51 AM:

yes & no.....heres my 2 cents worth....i belong to 2 bass clubs
one the non boater fished with different boater each wk. in the other the choice is yours.....before i became a boater, long ago
i really liked the idea of fishing with different boaters....the fact of the matter is... the learning curve is greater. i was able to pick up on different ways, different people did things. before a tx you
knew who you were paired with and you knew what they liked to
do. i have fished with persons who did absolutly nothing but throw spinnerbaits.....i mean did'nt bring anything else, but.
then i have fished with persons who did nthing but throw worms,
for 8 hrs. and the same with crankers. so in essence you went to school....during the tx. i must say i did pick up alot...
but, now i fish with my significent other in the other club....i am
teaching her all the knowledge that i have aquired....she is a great panfisher...but is new to bass fishing. she does not feel comfortable fishing with others...worrying about silly things like getting snagged, crossing lines etc. and i am okay with her wishes
it also makes it easier with the tackle to.....not having to prepare
separate tackle boxes etc. i mean it works for us (being paired)
for club tx. so until she gets more comfortable.... its a keeper sorry for the length...maybe it was 4 cents worth


Posted by earthworm77 on 07-16-2003 08:53 AM:

The non boater must adjust to every new angler he fishes with. If the guy fishes with the same boater, they get to know each others style.

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Posted by HugeFish4 on 07-16-2003 09:06 AM:

From my perspective, the non-boater is at a disadvantage in the SHORT RUN. Obviously, this individual is going to have to deal with a variety of fishing styles and fishing skill levels. While this may benefit the angler in the long run, this constant change and lack of control would personally drive me nuts! I would probably want to knock the boater over the head and take control of the boat. Probably the reason I am not a club member! LOL!

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Posted by tomloge on 07-16-2003 09:11 AM:

i just joined a small club this year, and have fished with several different boaters. i've enjoyed it tremendously. i've been lucky as i've been fishing with a great group of guys who are very flexable and accomodating to me (the non-boater). i've been able to pick up on subtle, little ideas and been able to make adjustments in the way i fish certain lures. also, it really has not presented any major problem or disadvantage to me. i've had my good days and my bad days (fishing-wise), but that's been due to what i do on the water and not because of the boater i'm with. anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth. i have not had any problems adjusting each week and i don't really anticipate any problems.


Posted by Woody on 07-16-2003 09:31 AM:

John

If you are fishing against the boater on a regular basis or not should not matter.
I am the exception to the rule...I have a bassboat and HAVE to fish as a nonboater.
As a Non-boater I have fished with different guys and had nothing but a pleasurable experience and have been treated with the utmost of respect. I throw the same style baits each outing.
I cannot see what any real advantage or disadvantage would be fishing with the same boater IF you are fishing against each other.
Your style and technique drastically change as the guy in the back... Why would that change?
Tight Lines,
Woody


Posted by HugeFish4 on 07-16-2003 09:37 AM:

Woody, it is pretty simple really. For example, if I want to fish offshore humps and subtle contour changes, and my boater is pitching to every single nook and cranny tight to shore, I would want to kill him and myself; especially if we weren't catching jack! It is simply a matter of control. I do not like not having it.

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Posted by JPBass on 07-16-2003 09:48 AM:

I always felt fishing with someone new was an advantage in the way of learning new techniques. It might not pay off for you in your tournament placement on that particular day but every little tidbit of information you pick up only makes you a better angler in the long run.

And Huge, in the scenario you describe well I guess you just gotta take turns. Sometimes the other guy's pattern may turn out to be the better.

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Posted by Lpbassman on 07-16-2003 09:53 AM:

I have to agree with JP. Fishing with different individuals will often FORCE some one to learn new techniques and locations. It can also show you a new and different way of throwing a particular type of bait that you are already familiar with. While it might not help you for a specific tourney or outing, it will in the long run make you a better and more versatile angler.

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Posted by Scott C on 07-16-2003 10:18 AM:

If the NON boater fishes with the same boater every week and neither is a top fish producer in the club I can see it being an advantage to both to mix it up in the draw format.

In the lakes I fish here on LI many of them can be fished with different styles from the same location on the lake...many of the drops, contour changes etc are close to shore or lillies so each boater can employ their style with proper boat position. Not all but alot of our waters can be fished that way with success.

I am a non boater and although I enjoy fishing with my partner a great deal I do like the draw format we incorporated this year....at least so far. I havent fished with Earthy or Northy yet !!

LOL I am looking forward to my lesson this week though And will adjust my style if necessary.

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Posted by HugeFish4 on 07-16-2003 10:24 AM:

Scott..what can I say? LOL! I would just want to have the opportunity to win or lose based on my decisions, not another individual's decision.

You will never get "The Watch"!!!! LOL!


Of course, when I am fishing for fun on a new body of water as a non-boater, I would rather have the angler with more knowledge of lake make the decisions.

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Posted by Scott C on 07-16-2003 11:11 AM:

Ok....thats better. If I ever get a boat you can come on it now.............. I gotta get that watch somehow.

LOL


Posted by JOHN G on 07-16-2003 09:22 PM:

this can be a "grass is greener on the other side" scenario....

if the boater is putting you on fish, there will be nary a complaint....

if he is not....

he is cramping your style! AHAHAHHAHAHAH,.....

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