Posted
by JOHN G on
Candy Get together: Tough fishing but fun times!!!!
Knowing the lake has been
super hard lately softens the blow, but in spite, my boat parters and I had a
grand ol' time....
Meeting everyone at the launch for a CT thingy was a new one for NYBAss, got to
meet some new faces, like Gary Menchen, a class act who will also contribute as
a boater at the Maho get together.....
great to see everyone again.....
the Fishing: after a slow slow morning, we picked up a bit in the afternoon as
we committed to Brewers grubs.....bass fishing has been non existant there, so
we knew we had to get other species for tight lines....
we ended up with 17 fish total......about 2 or 3 Lm, 6 or so smallies and then
an assortment of Rock bass, Yellow perch and sunny......
Gregg will post some pictures!
Lunch at Down the Hatch was KICKING....great burgers and great company.......
we really tried so many different techniques and depths and shorelines and
coves, etc......the most I have ever driven around on Candy ever.....
I will let my boatmen, Gregg and Vic get on with more details.....
but great to see all the guys , enjoyable lunch, some tight lines and loads of
laughs all day with my guys....
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by JohnnyL on
Same Deal
FOlks-- tough fishing as JG
put it but fun meeting up with all the folks-- looking forward to Maho also.
Great to meet and fish with Castaway... the "Rattle Master"
extraordinare -- I will try those out believe me!!
We ran all over the lake like John G did, but at the end of the day I think we
finally discovered a solid pattern... I wacked about 4 smallies and 1 (maybe 2,
I forget) LMBs on a small fat shallow crank bait... all on the outer perimeter
of Echo Bay in the shallows from 4-8 feet... it was a pretty consistent bite as
we only fished a small amount of the shoreline for about 35 mins... I think I
landed 3 of theses fish that I hooked-- water temp at that time was 57
The fish did not have a lot of size, biggest one probably pushed 1.5 or 2lbs,
but using UL tackle it was a blast and the acrobatic jumps of this one smallie
were a real kick once twice and in the boat you go pal..
Casty and I both figured it owuld pick up as the clouds rolled in, but as th
ewind picked up, and the clouds thickened, we decided to call it a day.
All in all a great trip with lots of fun and learnings for all... can't wait
for Maho folks.
PS John G, I think this weekend I'm going to try a Vanilla RoughRider slid over
a tube jig for extra sensation on the bass beds (LOL)... maybe that'll entice some
big females... LOL!!!
Posted
by Mark G on
Tough was the word.
I'll leave it
Great to meet some of the Outcast guys! Can't wait for Maho!
Mark
Posted
by Gregg on
Fun day as always seeing
the gang and with the help of brewers grubs we all put fish in the boat.
As promised by John some pic' of the better smallies.
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by Gregg on
And our buddy Vic in the smallie zone.
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by dodgeguy on
glad to hear you guys had
fun.wish i could have made it.not all days give us a million fish.the key is to
enjoy it anyway.
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by mikeD in NYC on
thanks LPbassman and HVbassmaster for a great time... the bite was slow, but those 2 guys managed to get in a groove in the afternoon with a flurry of smallie action... not big numbers, but action nonetheless.. a pattern was found in swimming a white tube... i wanted to practice my casting technique, so i didn't bother leaving the bait in the water too long; hence nada fishies for miguel(insert sarcastic tone here) but the company was superb and i think i got enough video for an NYBTV segment... i managed to bang back a couple brews during lunch so to take the edge off from the annoying phone calls i was getting from the office... i HATE when work interferes with my fishing!
can't wait for maho!
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by mikeD in NYC on
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Posted
by JeffLang BVS on
Hard Candy!!!!
Another get to gether
another Great Day. The fishing SUCKED! But we all still had a great time to
dispite! Alway's great to fish with Paul and it was great to get out with Mark
for the first time (Think we will be fishing Croton real soon) Lunch was awsome
nice too take a break (From Not catching fish) and hang out with the Crew.
I have never fished so many spots that look like the should hold fish and did
not! We threw it all (I stuck to senkos and tubes) and could not pattern fish.
Each of us put one fish in the boat to avoid the Skunking. The only fish I
caught was hooked while on the phone. Tried that pattern did not work LOL.
Thanks again to our fearless leader John G. all Hail!
Jeff BVS
Pictures above Paul and Mark as we fly across Candy, me with my only fish of
the day!
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by HugeFish4 on
Good to hear a good time was had by all, although it is too bad the fishing has been tough on Candy so far this year.
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by JOHN G on
some more thoughts about
why the day was so much fun in spite of the slow fishing:
always fun to talk with Leigh, and also it is fun to see other people's rigs,
and Leigh has a nifty one which is really a souped up version of what I have
with a bigger outboard and 24 volt troller.....
good to meet HV again, and so glad I was able to get him a seat in the get
together with the fading boaters!! LOL.....
Basshunter PeteM is such a gentleman, spoke to him the night before, callling
kind of late, but I was going crazy trying to get everyone a ride.....
Nicky is just a breath of fresh air, the ultimate anti-bullshit person....
Robbie34 , another one of those special people that you can't meet enough
times......
On my boat, of course, the Greggster, goes without saying, and Vic,
yankeesrule, who has become such a cherished friend...what a combo to fish
with!
MarkG, another impossibly nice guy, with great spirit....
Mike D, in the close circle of friends.....
Jovial Jeff, impossible not to like, and Paul Mattie, always there for these
things with that fantastic ride of his, Paul was the only one wearing shorts
out there in that cold wind! LOL.....
Mark DiNardo ( Basserachi), another special person, more enthusiasm for this
game than almost anyone I have ever met....he is another one of those guys that
get your juices flowing for fishing when you talk with him on the phone....
Gary Menchen, another gentleman, I am so glad to see him in the fold and anyone
that will be on his boat at the Maho thingy in June will be one lucky
person....
and talk about class acts, George ( castaway)....cut from a special cloth.....
and good ol' Johhny L, about the same age as my oldest son, and reminds me of
him so much.....a great fisherman and a fun person....anyone looking to see the
sights on Candy should take him up on any offers as his boat is moored in Echo
BAY all the time and he is my best current source of what is going on at Candy
all the time......
It is people like this that make these events so special and makes the fishing
almost a side show........
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Posted
by Gregg on
You know I could get use
to restaurants on the water! Pull up park the boat eat a nice lunch and bang
right back to fishing......John think we can get them to install something like
that at Wampus LOL
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Posted
by patx on
Way to go guys! Glad you
had fun. From what my experience was on Saturday with three other TX's going on
at the same time, I can tell you that I personally know how tough it has been.
Sounds like lunch was the highlight of the day! lol
I know what everyone mean about getting together with friends - that does make
it all worth while.
This is a great place - viva la NYBASS!
Pat X
Posted
by JOHN G on
Pat, since you are on the
thread, perhaps you can shed some light on this subject of tougher fishing on
some of these bigger CT waters.
for instance, if I were with Vic on his boat at Cross River today ( a
predominantly smallmouth water like Candy), doing the very same things we did,
we probably and conservatively would have boated at least 20 smallies ( not
allowed as on Candy of course, ahem!LOL)....and most of them
prodigious....another dynamite technique for suspenders, working a soft jerk
through the water column, out of sight, which will work on Maho even when it is
tough, also, didn't seem to arouse any takers.....
the water temp there would have been very similar, at best maybe a degree or two
more....
surely not as big a water as CAndy, BUT, with this caveat: water, and plenty of
it, that is 70 to 80 feet deep, so a great volume of water and plenty of space
for the fish to be....
main forage fish on that lake: alewife, just like Candy........
so: why?
is it: all the extra fishing pressure ( the many weekend tournies)?
more "educated" fish?
nothing more than a slump in a great fishery?
perhaps needing a truly totally different approach than all of us, or all of
the boaters from the past weekend attempted??
but of course, that would bring us back to the original premise, why would they
all work so wonderfully well right now on CR......
just musing about this...
I am also perplexed as to where the LM mouth stage or hang out right now on
that lake......again, on other waters, the high 50s temps do not seem to
discourage them from being active, ie, Maho.....
We were marking so many perfect looking arches on the bottom and suspended in
so many areas, yet none of the various things we tried worked: when I blade
baited those spots, I was rewarded with the occasional yellow....tubes off the
bottom wasnt taking.....slow crawling the brewers, a dynamite technique in so
many places, along the bottom of 12 to 25 foot water where good arches were
present also wasnt producing, although they were not hesitant to hit it in the
shallows......
fishing can be so perplexing at times, but lack of trying wasn't our fault as
we sure worked so many areas so thoroughly, and we often made a point of all
trying different approaches.....
Im sure several of the other guys who worked that lake over today are thinking
along the same lines....
any thoughts on this Pat?
thanks!!
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Posted
by Woody on
Kudos to all of you who made it....
Great Job all
around....Good to see that you had a great time and caught some fish.
Candy is proving to an "Interesting" body of water to fish this
season.
Tight Lines,
Woody
Posted
by Rob J in WNY on
Fantastic stories,
fellas! Sounds like you made the best of a tough pattern. Wish I could have
been there!
Anothe successful NYBass.com event! 
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Posted
by Theole34 on
once again a great goup
of guys.
the morning was a tough bite, with nick on 4 bass.
i bagged a tremendous 8" LMB, and some panfish.
lunch was great, with some great guys!
nice to meet Pete - Basshunter. a good knowledge of fishing and able to put up
with our antics. oh-- he'll fit right in! nice to meet you Pete.
nick - once again the great host. always looking to put EVERYONE on fish. he
did well with his ONLY bait B/B senko. wacky with stuff on it. thanks again
nick. he put up with 5+ hours of driving for 6 hours of fishing.
we left early to beat traffic missing the afternoon pattern.
thanks for the fun -
-robbie
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Posted
by Cast-a-way on
Tough but worth it...
As mentioned the fishing
was tough..very tough. This was my first time on the lake and now I know why so
many guys like this body of water..there's ALOT to like.
I got to meet and fish with JohhnyL..a real class-act guy with a wealth of
info. about the lake and how it fishes. I got a real crash corse on the lower
part of the lake and hope to put some of that to work when fishing 2 tourneys
on the lake this year. Johhny, again thanks alot buddy. I look foward to
fishing with you again sometime soon. As Johhny mentioned we(he) did come up
with a pattern at the end of the day throwing small cranks in 6ft of water.
Lunch was good and seeing some of the "regulars" is always a good
thing. We all compared notes and realized noboby was catching fish (except
Nicky..). I'm glad the p.m. bite picked up for everyone.
I look foward to the Maho. outing (fishing with both Johhny's) and John G.
thanks again for another great outing...George
P.S.:Robbie I hope your feeling better buddy and Mike I hope your client
doesn't drive you nuts today.....
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Posted
by Bass Rat on
Great time. Really nice
to see the old regulars and meet a few new members. Unfortunately Robbie
Northbass came down with a touch of Hershey Squirtious the day befor and had to
bow out as he attended to recovery. Hope your feeling better Rob. But Robbie
Theole34 stepped up to the plate and met me at
We jet back to the ramp to find the rest of the crew launching their craft. We
were greeted by the ever smiling faces of John G & Greg ( how can you not like
these guys!!).
Up to the parkng lot for a quick meet & great session. We meet our 3rd
partner for the day Pete (basshunter) I hate to say it but ANOTHER great guy
(this is getting ridiculous here).
Ok, lets go fishing. The 3 of us walk down to the shore, Robbie snapping
pictures left & right with his new "Ansel Adams/ Sports
Illustrated" insane lokking canera. As we approach the lake, I say
"Hey, Rob, You know what we should do?" He responds (While he's
looking through the viewfinder and walking) "What?". I tell him
"Get the boat!!!". My trusted steed has now broken free from the
constraints of shore and has now started the days fishing without us !!!! The
boat is now headed out of Squantz!! SO we jump on John G's boat and retreive
it. None the worse.
Fishing was slow. The company was great. ALot of laughs. I always seam to get
stuck with NYPD boys. It's Scary!!!!! LOL
Lunch was a blast.
Unfortunately, I had to split right after lunch so we missed that afternoon
bite. Pete, I owe you.
All in all, 3 LM & 1 SM for me.
Nick
Posted
by MikeM on
Glad to see all had a
good time despite the tough fishing. I was at work wishing all day that I could
have been on the water with you guys.
For those of you who fished this lake for the first time you are probably
thinking that its a sterile cesspool. I can't believe that Candlewood has been
so "off" for such a long period of time,how was the water color ?
It's usually pretty clear which obviously helps the jerkbait bite.
It can be an incredible fishery. I believe when the lake opened this year (late
April) fishing was very good, however its been pathetic the last 2-3 weeks.
Don't give up on the lake it just a matter of time before it finally turns on.
MikeM
Posted
by Charlie on
Nice Job Guys!
Candy can be tough at the beginning of the season. It's a known fact!
History will tell you that the larger fish tend to hold on the long points and
are caught when jerkbaits are fished in 20 plus feet of water.
"Well how do I get a jerkbait down 20 feet ?"you ask me...
If you cast your mind back to the old Foxwood Tournaments, the winning team
(from PA if I remember correctly) fished balanced, lead filled jerkbaits on
light lines. The bait would fall slowly on a semi slack line until it hit the
bottom (if it got that far) and then snap the jerkbait upwards, then letting it
fall again.
I do not think they weighed in less than 20lbs a day!
I had weighted some jerkbaits in preparation for Foxwoods 2003, but as we all
know it never happened!
John, the fish are there, but they will not come to you, you HAVE to go get
down to them!
Tight Lines!
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by JOHN G on
Charlie, I did do more
deep water fishing than the rest of my boatmates, just didnt have what it took
to attract them....my question is more related to why the slump, not why is
Candy tough, because , as mentioned, the fishing had been very good there and
will probably pick up again in a couple of weeks...if it was just post spawn,
then I would understand that, however, I don't believe they have spawned there
yet.....
I have used a system with Jerks where you essentially split shot it and then
count it down and then work it...
now, the method you are talking about, you let it hit bottom alltogether and
then snap it up.....interesting....we were doing that with Tubes and blade
baits in the very same water you were talking about, usually menu options that
appeal to them....I will have to look into this other concept, basically
jigging a stick bait, in a way...interesting!
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Posted
by Lpbassman on
It WAS a great get
together!
I got to meet again and get to know
the"assistant evil tyrant" Mike D, ( a great guy) as well as
HVBassmanster, Kevin. A fun bunch of guys that I was glad to have on my boat
for the day. Action in the morning WAS SLOW, non existant for us. We headed all
the way up the New Millford arm to fish the rocks and rip-rap. I had one
smallie follow a LC 78 pointer to the boat...OH BOY! We tried jerkbaits,
cranks, spinners, tubes, senkos, sliders, hulas---nada.
Lunch time was a lot of fun at Down the Hatch. I was kind of glad to hear that
it was not just us that could not find fish. NICKY, I think you better change
your name to BASSMAGNET. LOL Good job of getting a few to the boat. Always good
to see Robbie and Gregg. Got to meet Johnnyl and Pete. \
After lunch we headed into
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by Bass Rat on
So glad to hear you guys nailed a few after lunch. Oh boy, Pete I really owe you now. Hope you stuck a few at FR on your way home.
Posted
by patx on
Ok, I'll give you MY
opinion on why the fishing has beenm tough there - remember - MY opinion only.
If you looked at the water, you will notice that it had a real good stain to
it. Typically, this time of year, there are a number of bedding fish in the
shallows, and trust me, they are there, you just cant see them. The weather has
been soooooo screwed up this year that I believe that the falling and rising in
water temps has spawned some type of algae bloom. We ahve the same thing going
on at Maho right now. It seems that the majority of the fish just arent getting
into that water - again - IMHO. I also have marked quite a few fish in the
water column, but havn't been able to get bit there - weird. My guess is that
the algae bloom has reduced the amount of oxygen on the HOT areas (shallows),
making these fish not bite as aggressively as they should. I threw a
spinnerbait and a host of jerkbaits (wide wobble/tight wobble) in trying to get
these fish to HEAR the bait since the water is soo stained. Thats not the norm
on both Candy and Maho. All to no avail.
The largemouth that Joe and I did see on saturday were literally in suspended
animation in the back end of coves. It was almost like they were either coming
to within inches of the surface for warmth - typical to early spring in the
northeast. However, the water temps in the back of those coves were in the low
60's - pleanty warm for spring fishing. They were completely not approachable -
spooking anytime you got near them. That leads me to believe that they were up
that shallow in the water column looking to breathe - again reinforcing my
point that this algae bloom is depleteing the oxygen supply for the fish.
Who knows - maybe its just a slump. Maybe the fish are just so screwed up
because of the warm - then cold - then warm again weather. We are averaging 15
degree's cooler (when you average the temps in any given wek lately), so maybe
the fish are feling that.
Does my algae bloom analysis make sense to you? I agree, its weird, but its not
just Candy and Maho. I was fishing another lake in CT this week, and saw the
same thing - algae bloom - and yes the fishing was tough there too.
Hey - what ever happened to Global Warming?
I would love to know everyone elses opinion here - I truely do not have allthe
answers.
Gang - thoughts?
Pat
Posted
by dodgeguy on
it's possible.titicus is
stained and it's usually clear around this time of year.fishing has also been
hard there.i agrre that the weather has been major f----d up.lot's of fronts to
mess it up.
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Posted
by HugeFish4 on
The now pending Noreaster ain't gonna help the situation. Very strange spring. Hopefully, after this cool down things will get back to normal
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Posted
by Mark G on
Damn, Pat...you stole my
thunder. At least a little bit of it. I wouldn't have thought it out as well as
you did, but I did notice that the Candy water was downright turbid.
I would also add that the Maple trees (I think they're maples) are giving off
pollen right now. The water in the shallows was tinted a green color, and in
many places near the shore the water was covered with a green particulate
coating that I think was coming from the trees. Add to that the potential for
an algal bloom and you get the muddy water we saw yesterday.
I've seen the same thing at other waters recently, but not to the same extent.
Mark
Posted
by Bass Rat on
quote:
The water in the shallows was tinted a green color, and in many places near the shore the water was covered with a green particulate coating that I think was coming from the trees.
Mark, I find this to be common this time of year. And I don't find it to effect
the fishing. Also, I beleive it is the oak trees. Not that it matters.LOL
Pat, The algea theory is very interesting. Are you saying that this particular
type of algea grows only when the water temp goes drastically up & down? Is
this a different type of algea then you would see in an unusually warm spring?
I don't know much about aquatic algea, but I would love to learn more. (Cripes
I never thought I'd ever say that)
Posted
by Charlie on
John G, I have an article
from a copy of Bassin Magazine, which I can share with everyone. I am not sure
about copyright so perhaps I should just post the basics, but it’s a great
technique.
Nick (aka BassRat), Looks like Candy is turning into a Lilly..... Maybe Lilly
will now turn into a Candy..... Interesting thought, as they are both feed by
the Housatanic!
Pat, I understand and commend the principles to which you refer. I too believe
that this is purely a weather related problem because of the extremes we are
currently experiencing. This weekend I fish Lilly and I know the bite will be
directly affected by this passing low and imminent rainfall from tonight
(Friday) through till early Saturday morning. Q. Do you think the vibration or
a sound chambered lure could be the key in this situation?
Mark, You hit on a "pattern" of sorts that I discovered two years ago
in
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by HVBassmaster on
Could it be the late
spring and the late blooming of trees and plants has helped to create this
murky collored water?
I know my allergies are going heyfeever I mean heywire. I had asked lp
yesterday "is it me or this water unussaly murky" which he replyed
yes it is very murky.
Had a great time yesterday not a lot of action but my knowlege of bass fishing
increasted big time as haveing the honor to fish with Mike D and LP. I one of
my better tiems on the water on a lke I love to fish. I hope the fishing is
better next wendsday in the tx there.
I just can't figure this bassing out sometimes
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by JohnnyL on
Great Insights
Guys-- this is such a
great board!! I swear I love these ideas as they keep my own wheels turning--
I love to fish Candy so much b.c it is so large that the conditions change so
quickly you really need ot have a good bag o' tricks.
I agree with Pat and the rest-- the water is extremely murky and Candy usually
is clear as we move into the summer. I know last spring at this time I was
watching smallies chasing my baits in a few feet of water.
Having fished Candy almost every weekend for the past 4 years, I can tell you
all that this is not the way the lake usually fishes and I have been repeatedly
baffled this season (I've been out 6 x already on it.)
My thoughts... I think the algae bloom is a good idea.. probably contributing
to this issue of suspending bass and murky water.
Pat X, I've gone up on to flats to look to see if I could see any bass for the
last few times I've been out and haven't seen a thing... I've also looked for
the old beds that have been cleared as these fish are generaly spooky to begin
with-- and still haven't seen a thing. I don't think the majority of Candy fish
have come up in the flats yet at all. I think they may have begun to stage in
shallows and began to clear off some areas only to have night temps drop 20
degrees, pushing them back off the flats into the channels and dropoffs...
that's why i think we marked so many fish in the 15 foot range suspended mid
depths... they're waiting to come up and spawn... i really believe that they
haven't even come up yet.
This happened a few years ago when I used to fish New Croton (I think after the
winter of 95 or 96, i forget)... we HAD NO SPRING that year... it went from
weather like this to near 80 consistently, and I felt that unless you fished
those few inital 80 degree days, the spawn was over and done with in th eblink
of an eye-- i have a bad feeling these fish are going to move up and out
quickly this year, and we'll be on a consistent summer pattern once the water
heats up to 63+ consistently for over a week,
One last thing, dealing with the murky waters... don't forget that CL&P
drew the lake down 10+feet this year on Candy and there was 18 + inches of ice
on top of it mostly covered with snow... I know b/c i iced fished it twice.
Also remember the lake was CHOKED last year with weeds.. in some places, you
couldn't even get near with the boat it was so thick.
I think all of the dead weeds and detriment on the bottom of the lake has begun
to decay, foulign the water and being mixed up with both the winds and the pump
station of new water into the lake... I think this coupled with the weather are
2 huge factors at Candy this year....
just my thoughts guys... again-- what a great board this is!!!
Posted
by Mark G on
Johnny's post jogged my
memory and I remember a couple of important points.
First,
What I don't know is what sex the spawning smallie was. Perhaps
Mark
Posted
by Gregg on
Any one notice the south end was more stained then the north? Did better in the north but by afternoon the wind picked up and we got some fish on and near wind blown points.
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by Bass Rat on
quote:
Originally
posted by Gregg
Any one notice the south end was more stained then the north? Did better in
the north but by afternoon the wind picked up and we got some fish on and near
wind blown points.
Yes!
Posted
by JOHN G on
the fishing picked up so
much more in the Afternoon...even though there weren't too many bass, still, if
the morning fishing was just like the afternoon, it would have been a very good
day indeed....
all nice theories indeed.....I might add that Vic had told me that just lately
Cross River had slowed somewhat from the bonanza he had found, and now I am
curious if he has noted any change in Water color, because the first thing he
remarked about on the water was how much clearer Cross River was than Candy.
Pat, I really buy your theory also that there were beds to be seen but not
"seenable" lol....
Vic if you see this how about adding some input here!
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Posted
by Theole34 on
pat,
i belv you are correct on bedding. my first fish was caught in an area close to
shore where i kept getting lifted, but no settable bites. i would watch the
line move and reel down and set... no fish. no bite, just a gentle lift as if
being moved from a bed. i have done this in clear water on LI and have seen the
fish move the bait off of a bed and drop it. the action was very similar. was
fishing a mizmo tube with glass and steel weight, bouncing it along the bottom
as nick worked the electric motor.
got rock bass while retrieving senkos.
no luck with countdowns or jerks.
both during morning hours.
robbie
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Posted by Mark G on 05-15-2003 09:20 PM:
John, if I may steal some
of Vic's thunder...I fished with him at Cross River last Sat. and Sun. and the
water was not as clear as I'm used to at Croton and Kensico. It wasn't as bad
as Candy yesterday, but it wasn't gin clear NYC reservoir water either. We
definitely noticed that maple pollen on the water (confirmed it was maple by
brushing it off my car)...not sure if that contributed to the turbidity, but I
think we may be onto something with water clarity...
Mark
Posted by yankeesrule on 05-15-2003 10:36 PM:
Theories, theories....now im confused.
Let me just say it was a blast
being with the gang again. Lunch was awesome, and the company of John and Gregg
is priceless.
The fishing was tough, but did get better in the afternoon. As far as water
clarity...Yes the water at Cross River was a bit stained....but still we
managed good fish, just not the bonanza of 25 + days that is so common there.
Now, here is where i will throw a nasty curveball at all of you. I went out
after work today with my brother, we went to Kensico reservoir. The water was
even more stained than the water at Cross River....and i have never seen the
water this murky especially at Kensico. So with that said, what were the
results today ? JUST 1 DAY after we had terrible fishing at Candy. We had the
most unbelievable hour and a half EVER ! over 20 fish....just about every fish
in the 2 lbs range....and we had doubles TWICE ! I could not see my Brewers
till i pulled it out of the water....talk about stained water, Yet we witnessed
the most aggressive bite i have ever seen. What gives ? How were these fish seeing
the baits ? It was overcast....just like yesterday, a bit windy, just like
yesterday, and we were fishing Brewers.....just like yesterday. We left because
it got dark, not because the bite died. I want to hear what you guys think now.
VIC.
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Posted by Anthony on 05-15-2003 11:14 PM:
Not sure if I'm correct
but it might have something to do with the storm that's coming. Everything I've
read suggests that the fish turn on just before a storm and usually turn off
right after.
As I said I may be wrong. Will be interested to see what others think.
Anthony.
Posted by basshunter on 05-15-2003 11:39 PM:
hey guys,
No need to say that the fishing sucked, but the guys were the best. Robbie and
Nick I'll fish with you guys where and when ever I had a great time
It was the company that made the day.
It was good to see some old faces and meet new ones.
Jeff 300 bags you're out of control LOL. god bless we only live once
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Posted by JOHN G on 05-16-2003 06:53 AM:
Vic, what a post! want to see the reaction of that one! great to see you join the mix on this thread......
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Posted by Theole34 on 05-21-2003 04:18 PM:
new
bass species
quote:
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bahemouth LM
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quote:
If I keep going with this, I'll be top 5 in posts by day's end...
if this is what
NYBASS was all about.
eye woodent bee heer!
joe- people in glass houses..... !!!
lol
- robbie
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Posted by ttony_5 on 05-22-2003 02:16 PM:
I'm thinking that most of
us are trying to generalize this as if there's one thing that turns a fish on
or off. Water clarity has definitely been an issue but Anthony from Brewster
brought up a great point. Stained water or clear, when a storm is coming, the
fish will most certailny turn on moreso than after the systems passes through.
Let's all think for a second about all the things that have an effect on fish
behavior
barometric pressure
water temps
water clarity
pre-spawn, spawn, post spawn
light conditions
hunger
reaction
Now let's look at all the different baits we use to focus on these behaviors
dead stick
vibrating
reaction
finesse
swimming
crawling
This to me is what makes fishing the most fun...figuring them out versus
accepting that they're not biting.
Some days are just worse than others. The best fishermen are the ones who
always manage to find a way.
That's where you find a super level of respect for the guys who put bread on
the table by fishing. It's like me watching someone like Derek Jeter. I played
very competitive ball but watching these guys do it day in and day out is
amazing.
They never get to complain about someone's vicous curveball because, guess
what? Everyone else that day had to try and hit the very same curveball. The
best are the ones who figure it out and manage...no matter what.
As bad as it gets, I'd really like to see us focus on giving props to the guys
who humbly come on here and tell us how they did it.
my $.02
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Posted by JOHN G on 05-22-2003 05:11 PM:
Tony, your post was so great that I am going to copy it over to Tackles and Tactics section and let it get reaction on there also.........
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Posted by ttony_5 on 05-22-2003 07:21 PM:
Thanks, John for the kind
words. I just remember learning so much from the guys who told me what they did
to catch when no one else was. That's when we learn the most and that's really
what this place is all about.
KUMBAYA
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Posted
by HVBassmaster on
I have talked to people
who both fish and live near the lake. They are blamming the color of the water
on run-off from construction on and around the lake.
In
Also with the many bags that were over 10 lbs in the HVBM mid week tournament
this past wensday (
Out of 25 boats in this team tournament only 2 boats came in without a limit.
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Posted
by JOHN G on
that is a good sign for sure HV, perhaps now Candy will be a fun place to fish in the next couple of weeks.....
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Posted
by Gary Menchen on
Mark, Sorry for the long
delay in respondind to your thread. As you know I"m in middle of my move
to Copake and things are as hectic as can be. Thans for the great pic and kind
words. We caught a few but yes it was a tough day. Maho should be better. See
you there.
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