Posted by tomloge on 2002 PM:

buying a kayak

i'm looking to buy a small kayak that one person can handle. can't spend a lot of money. also, i have a small car. can i get a kayak that's easy for one person to handle? also, would i need to get roof raks for my car to transport it? any info would be appreciated. thanks in advance.


Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 PM:

I heard some good advice regarding mason twine. But i don't recall. LOL

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Posted by lastcastme on 2002 PM:

Tomloge

You should talk to ScottC.
He has a great kayak.
Just right for one person.
He even has it hooked up with a fishfinder!Check this out also.
www.travelcountry.com
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Posted by AKO on 2002 PM:



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Posted by theole34 on 2002 PM:

hey kayakers and future kayakers..
i found some info on kayak stuff while searching for a possible future purchase.

kayak fishing 101

not exactly bass oriented, but good info.

also found this ..
Paddling.net Interactive Buyers' Guide

enjoy

talking about "Spring" fishing...... right?


Posted by Gregg on 2002 AM:

Rob the man with a link for everything

Nice link bro, that kayaking 101 is a must read for anyone thinking of it.

We have a couple of Yak-Happy fisherman would like to hear their pluses and minuses of fishing in a kayak.

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Posted by Meg on 2002 AM:

Hi Tom,

I have an Old Town Loon also, as pictured above. It is classified as a recreational kayak, as opposed to a touring or white water kayak. It is 12 ft long, about 50 pounds, and it is fairly easy for me to put on the roof rack alone. Keep in mind, when I say "fairly easy", I say that knowing that I have provided free entertainment for many people at the launches... I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with roof racks, and only had to purchase two foam blocks to place on the rack to center the kayak.

There are certainly pluses to fishing from a kayak. I can kayak up into areas with 4-5 inches of water, where certain fish have never seen soft plastics. The Loon is VERY stable, which for me with an abundance of natural grace (not), was quite important! When you hook into a big smallie, you go where it wants you to-I have been wedged between trees, etc. It is a ton of fun. I will echo AKO's recommendation that you thoroughly research your purchase!

Rob,

I think you shoule be NYBass' official "provider of reference links"!


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

Kayak Selection

Tom-
My lovely wife bought me the kayak I have now after hearing me exclaim how much I would like to get one and fish from it. She did little research on it and basically shopped for price. As it turns out this was the nicest and most used gift I have ever received. In the last year I have spent about 400+ hours in this craft. It is the Perception Swifty. The most basic recreational Kayak they have, designed for calm water. Its 9 1/2 ft long and weighs about 34#'s. Very easy to put on the roof of my Pathfinder and easy to carry on one shoulder. All I have is the basic foam pad/strap rack adapter that cost about 50 bucks. I have taken this on long hauls up to the
Adirondacks with no problems whatsoever. This yak is very stable because of its width but certainly not the fastest on the block. I can however out run most guys with trolling motors on a calm day !! It tracks fairly well (meaning when you paddle it doesnt go from side to side) but there are certainly other models that track much much better. Since I am not out to break any speed records (usually) this hasnt been a problem. Rudder systems are great but if cost is a consideration then you can go without. Storage is limited to betwen your legs and behind the seat but has never been a problem. I fit a decent size tackle bag between my legs and still have room to be comfortable. There is some side storage for little stuff too. Overall a great inexpensive (as inexpensive as they come) way to get on the water and into places that Meg described earlier. You can go all out with a Kayak if you want. Some guys have motors, livewells, pontoons for the really big game and all sorts of gadgets. All I have done is add a few clips on the sides for the paddle and a few for my rod. This winter I rigged up a nice little Humminbird DX200 using a small rechargable 12 V that weighs about 7 lbs. The battery is portable and stays in a waterproof bag behind the seat. For places like Ronko this is much needed if you want to find fish. You can easily rig netting on the front or rear deck if needed. Like AKO said its handy for all sorts of things that you cant store inside. Also I agree with everyone on doing research but this was an unexpected gift so I didnt have that luxury. As it turns out I am quite happy with what I have.
Kayak cost about $350-375
PFD $ 50.00
Paddle- $40-60 for a decent one. ( dont get suckered into the carbon fiber stuff unless you are racing or doing some WW or going cross country) the extra few ounces is good for your arms !
Skirt- optional but handy in the rain or rough water $ 35-50
If you have a roof rack all you need is the pad/strap system which is about $50
So you are looking at less than $600 to get started. And again as AKO said....you WILL live on this once you try it !!

Have bagged a few 16-20 lb stripped bass on these in the back bays and let me tell you....there is nothing like a good ole Nantucket Sleigh Ride !!! But all it really takes is a 3-4 # fish to pull ya around a bit. (oh yeah) collapsable anchor and 30 feet or line- about $20 Saves the face from "brush rash" when being pulled into the sticks. (see Megs comment)

Here is a site that has good info....


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

site info

cant get it to attach for some reason. try www.kayakfishing.com


Posted by bobn on 2002 AM:

tomloge--go into ebay--there are almost 500 items under "kayak"---bobn


Posted by tomloge on 2002 PM:

thanks everyone for all your posts and great information. i really do appreciate it. i look forward to getting one & i'll keep you posted.


Posted by Scott C on 2002 PM:

If you are going to the meeting tonight we can talk more...
SC


Posted by JOHN G on 2002 PM:

this is a classic nybass thread: everyone chipping in with really vital information about the topic asked....kudos to everyone for all the help that they have offered!!!! JOHN G

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Posted by elect1960 on 2002 PM:

Kayak

Hi Tom,
I fish from a kayak most of the time, And It's great. I have a Walden scout http://www.waldensports.com/Scout_topsmall.gif and one of my fishing partners has a Pungo from wilderness systems. I have tried both and like the walden better its more stable than the Pungo. The Pungo has more cockpit space but not alot of deck space to mount all of the toys. I bought mine from Ramsey sport in
New Jersey but im sure you can get them from any shop. You can check out Hudson valley pack and paddle in Hopewell Jct. Eric is very Knowledgeable with kayaks canoes and racks. his store number is 845-896-3829

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Posted by Ken L on 2002 PM:

I think the first thing most of us think of when the subject come up is the classic sit in type of kayak. All watercraft are compromises of one sort or another and the drawbacks would never have occurred to me if I hadn't hooked up with a few more experienced kayak fishermen. To make a long story short if your primary purpose is to FISH from a kayak let me strongly suggest that you consider a sit on top. I offer the following reasons:
1. You will find far more occasions then I think is obvious to get out and wade fish. The Kayak can get you to places that niether boaters or waders can go. The Sit insides are a bear to get in and out of. a good fishing SOT will even let you swing sideways with your legs in the water.
2. take a look on some of the kayak websites at the directions for climbing back in if you dump. With a good Fishing SOT you just pull yourself in sideways.
3. Sit inside kayaks can get hot.
4. SOT's are self bailing.

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Posted by tomloge on 2002 PM:

hi scott,

i was lookingforward to talking to you about the kayak at the meeting monday night, but due to some last minute work problems ( a dumb trainee & an even dumber boss), i couldn't make it tothe meetng. maybe i'll see you at the next meeting or I'll run in to you at
ronkonkoma.


Posted by King Fisher on 2002 PM:

If you're looking for a lightweight, versatile and easy to handle boat for fishing, also consider canoes. Last year I picked up a used Old Town canoe for less than $300, it's light enough (65#'s) that I can take on/off the roof of my truck by myself and it handles great in the water, either by myself or with another person. There is more than enough room to carry gear and anything else you can think of. There are several brands that make small, lightweight canoes that can easliy be car topped. Old Town and Radisson both make excellent canoes designed for one or more persons that are in the 35-65 pound range. oldtowncanoe New, these will cost in the $550-750 range, but a used one at a good price isn't too hard to find.
If you have your heart set on a kayak, go with that, they are also alot of fun and great to fish from, but also consider a small canoe.
Best of luck and have fun!!!

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Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

Tom,
Sorry to have missed you. I might be at Ronko tonight after work working the holes from the Brookhaven side. I should be there at about 6-6:30. If I dont see you I will catch up with you at our first tourney.
I have considered the SOT myself for my next Kayak. The only drawback for me is that I use it all year. Nov-Mar can be rather chilly and the sit in can keep you fairly toasty if you use a skirt. I think you would stay dryer as well. But if you are going to use it only in fair weather then you may want to look into the SOT for all the reasons Ken L mentioned.
SC


Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

kayak fishing

don't know if this was mentioned in this thread--may--02 field and stream has an article on fishing w/kayaks-part 1-evidently there will be more-may be of interest to you yakkers--bobn


Posted by Ken L on 2002 PM:

We can't take kayaks out in the ocean in the middle of a storm but much of the other time we can. I suppose you could take a canoe out but not with me in it.
Kayaks are just so much more versatile. The very fact that the paddle is resting across your lap ready to go to either side is a major advantage over a canoe. you can also paddle most of them faster than a trolling motor will push a canoe.
As far as cold weather comfort goes you can always put more clothes on and new breathable waterproof fabrics are terrific. If it gets hot and your a mile from shore in a sit inside what do you do?

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Posted by AKO on 2002 AM:

Guys, PLEASE take no offense to my statement but, I own a sit-inside kayak and I fish YEAR round and I have NEVER been TOO hot or TOO cold. I don't know about the rest of you but, when I am out on the water the rest of my concerns ALL go out the window! I really NEVER think of anything but, my predatory instincts and my prey. I know that I am coming off somewhat arrogant but, all this talk of too hot, too cold has me thinking that we are more concerned w/ creature comforts than with FISHING. I have used both sit-on-top and cockpit and they BOTH bring me to my prey very well. I still stand by my original sit inside kayak because it keeps me insulated from the elements that TRY to get in the way of what I do best, FISHING! Bring on the rain, snow, sleet, SUN, whatever you got lord, I AM READY! BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by bobn on 2002 AM:

for sale ad in todays gannett paper--kayak 12 1/2 '--like new--barely used--$250.00--914 527 4516--no other info---bobn


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

There you have it.......A true Yak Attacker !!!

AKO you are killing me ! That was just way too funny......

Bring me to my prey......bring it on Lord ! HAHAHA

Great post !

Ken L Personally....I dont go a mile off shore with my 9 ft Kayak. I enjoy the quiet waters in the back bays if I go in the salt. I have access to a boat, I'll use that if I need to go out in the ocean. In my opinion a mile off shore in a yak just doesnt sound too safe.


Posted by AKO on 2002 AM:

Scott, Believe it or not, I do bring my kayak in the ocean. I have never fished w/ it though. I do have a 14.7ft boat though!


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

Oh I believe it....I have gone out in the sound before. But I can catch all the species I target right in the bay or at the inlet. No need to paddle that far or subject myself to an unexpected wind shift. As you know it can change quickly out there. Thats what Dad's 29ft Luhrs is for !!!


Posted by tomloge on 2002 PM:

GOT MY KAYAK TODAY!!! My wife got me a kayak as a combination anniversary gift & early father's day gift. can't wait to take it out. probably gonna try in at ronkonkoma tomorrow, maybe can get some walleyes. did catch some small walleyes last night (10-12"). nice little fight for small fish. can't wait to get some big ones. last night, they were hitting rattle traps. (perch colored).


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

GOOD FOR YOU TOM !!!

Another Yakker.........what did you end up getting ?


Posted by AKO on 2002 AM:

Congrats! Enjoy and welcome to your new world! One of wonder, amazement, being so close to nature that you will often FEEL like the rest of ther world has disappeared. Remember that you must come back to earth every now and then!

-AKO


Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

You really are going to love it Tom. I had my first keeper striped bass of the season yesterday......I ducked in tight to the weed line where no other boats could go and communed with nature.......


Posted by tomloge on 2002 PM:

i got a riptide (made by mainstream, i think). my wife got if for me as a combination gift (anniversary-19 long/wonderful years) & and early father's day gift. you'll see me on ronkonkoma. it's yellow. about 9.5 feet long. i took it out yesterday. it was lots of fun. the water did get a little rough (very windy) , but i already started enjoying my kayak. it is real smooth sailing. got out to the middle of the lake real quick, but then blew into shore within 5 minutes. but, at least i got to break it in. didn't catch any fish, though. you were right in one of your ealier posts-i got drenched!


Posted by Scott C on 2002 PM:

Good for you man ! Happy anniversary too !

You will find that the lake can get pretty rough in no time....Obviously Ronkonkoma will get rougher than most because of its exposure. The night I saw you there it was really rough on the other side but nice and calm where we were. Its calm more often than rough in most LI waters so that drenching wont happen too much. Wait till you see all the places that you can take it to that you cant access from the shore. You are going to have a blast !

Good luck with it. I'll see ya out there.

SC