Posted by Gregg on 2002 PM:

Average Age of a NY Basser

Well you asked Bob

Let's see if we can find an average age!
"Not that it matters"

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Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

thanks gregg-i can't vote -won't take my vote-but i am 58 years old and still rockin' and a rollin'--bobn

Posted by Bigredfishing on 2002 PM:

the two 11-20 is daga'(18) and me(20)
hopefully there are a few more out there

Posted by paridiseblue on 2002 PM:

hehehe i am the 26 year old and no i won,t buy you beer. lol

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Posted by Bigredfishing on 2002 PM:

LOL

But seriously now, will you? C'mon, please! Ill pay ya extra! PLEASE!!!!!!

LOL

PS: actually i am sipping on some molson ex that i bought in canada while on my champ trip. MMMM........... good! (drinking age is 19 in canada!)

Posted by Falls Fisherman on 2002 PM:

Thanks bobn

I thought I was going to be the only old fart in this poll

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Posted by paridiseblue on 2002 PM:

ah canada, i'll never forget my first trip over the border, molson 3.0s, labatts, french canadian girls, figuring out that greenbacks are worth so much. if you speak french and have a pocket of american cash you are unstopable. eventually you will want to come home ay. if you stay to long you start to sound like the al linder.

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Posted by Gr8tSacandaga on 2002 PM:

PLEASE PARADISE! PLEASE! LOL

There are a few other 11-20 year olds on here that I can think of... Giorgio(NJBASSBOY) is 17, SeaJack is 19 or 18 if I remember correctly.. and I think one or two other people but I'm not positive

and Bigred, I'm 17(not 18)

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Posted by Sea Jack on 2002 PM:

Yep, ya caught me. I'm 18. But, here in WNY we never have problems getting any . . . wait, I've said too much.

One thing I did want to mention was that B.A.S.S. did a survey of their subscribers and the average age there was 48. Of course that is a national average, but I figured I'd throw that out there.

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Posted by Frank Pugliese on 2002 AM:

When I cruise by the all girls Catholic High Schools with beer and cigarettes in the car I tell them I'm 19. Only kidding.
I'm 34.

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Posted by Hooked Again on 2002 AM:

38 and feeling old reading this thread

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Posted by Scott C on 2002 AM:

looks like I fell right within the average so far

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Posted by BARRY on 2002 AM:

Well i'm in the 1% . Going on 55. And yes rob I do have an AARP card.
Barry

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Posted by MikeyP on 2002 AM:

28 over here.

Thank you please drive through.

Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

I'm 65 and knew NOTHING at 40

But, i was considered by some, an expert at 17.
Here is the truth of it.
At 65 having fished FAR more than ANYONE i know i don't feel i "execute" better than many younger less experienced anglers.
I DO however know WHAT to execute better than most.
Best.
dick.

Posted by ChrisChance on 2002 PM:

yesterday, today, hopefully tommorow

Posted by Bassin Dude on 2002 PM:

I'm 42...

When I was 18 I was sure that I knew EVERYTHING!

Now, I'm sure that I don't know some things.

Someday, if I'm lucky, I'll realize that I don't know anything...

Then, I can truely say that I'm a wise man.

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Posted by Rob J in WNY on 2002 PM:

Re: 32

quote:

Originally posted by ChrisChance
32 yesterday, today, hopefully tommorow

Hmmmm.....interesting coincidence, Chris...

Me, too!

Tight Lines...

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Posted by dodgeguy on 2002 AM:

43 and aging like fine wine!!!or is that as fresh as a sam adams boston ale!!!

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Posted by bass 64 on 2002 PM:

I'm 19 and hopefully I be "the kid" on EEBA next year if I get in.

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Posted by Bass Rat on 2002 AM:

38. Dodge you don't look a day over 42.

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Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 AM:

i'm 36 going on 15

dick...when you say you don't execute as well as younger fisherman, do you mean you're not working the trolling motor with your foot while pounding shoreline cover like those guys with the big bass boats!?...i don't know how anyone can concentrate on fishing while operating those things...paul mattie let me operate his boat and i was downright overwhelmed concentrating on keeping the boat off the rocks... i have a hard enough time with my inflatable!

dodge...you are more like a malt liquor i think... maybe olde english 800 or colt 45... you're as fresh as beer, but got more of a buzz

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Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

Nope Mike not exactly.

What i said was that i don't think i execute BETTER than younger less experienced anglers.
They may be able to put in more hours in more difficult weather conditions, rising earlier driving farther, staying later.
They may have more acute vision for line watching and faster responses.
On the other hand i normally know where to go and what to do as a result of long experience,research and the (on the water) study of fish biology.

As to banging the bank while doing the one foot balancing act, i'm not that foolish.
I care little about LM or "baby"SM which tend to be cover oriented.
I tend to go from anchor point to anchor point, using the bow mount only as necessary.
In my personal fishing i am not looking for aerobic conditioning i am looking for numbers of high quality smallmouths or other fish with minimum effort and maximum reliance on the clues offered by seasonal influences.
Best.
dick.

Posted by JPBass on 2002 PM:

Mr. Jig, Just curious.

At age 65 with a number of lifetimes of fishing under your belt, (compared to many) do you still find yourself experimenting with new styles and tecniques? Or do you feel you've aquired the knowledge to know what works and go with that? Do you find yourself experimenting with new waters? Or stick to the ones you've mastered? I know from your posts you like the Senko. That can't be too old of a trick.

Besides, in 15 or 20 years who's gonna pull in those darn anchors?? LOL

And before anybody here gets bent outta shape this is no insult intended towards the older generation. We'll all be there soon enough. I just really am curious.

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Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

JPBass

I enjoyed your question.
First, i could still get as excited as anyone about a new technique if i could find one!
Do not believe for a minute that what you are seeing in technique or baits is "new". Refined yes. New... no!!

Where i continue to learn hungrily is in fish biology as popularized and disseminated largely through the efforts of In Fisherman, and the lifetime research of Dr Mark Ridgeway.
As to those anchors ,if necessary i'll hire a kid to pull them for me before i give them up!!!

I enjoy new waters but most folks REALLY over do it, either out of the search for water that will save them from their mediocrity OR more often, because a tourney schedule leaves them new on many waters.
One glance at a hydro map and for me and others i know, the water is not new!
A call to DEC to the appropriate fishery biologist about forage and the lake is an old friend.
It is not necessary to be 65 to do this.
My friend Steven Flint who is closer to 40 than 65 can do it as well or better than i.
Success in fishing is about studying fish and seasonal influences RATHER THAN fishing, which absent the former... is largely a waste of time.
Thanks for your provacative question.
dick.

Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

dick, there's always the anchor mate-a lot lighter than a kid and sometimes perhaps more dependable-been considering one for my jon boat-bobn

Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

Bobn. Good news Bad news.

The anchor mate is a good idea for your Jon boat but useless to me.
I have in my boat 2- 18 lb crab claws with 100 ft of line on each, a 15 lb river anchor with 40 ft in a bow bracket for
"casual" anchoring and a danforth in reserve.
Anchoring is serious business!
dick.

Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

whew!-i'll say-that's being an anchoring boy scout-"be prepared"--bobn

Posted by JPBass on 2002 PM:

Old

But still a good read.

As you can see my copy has been well used. Just wish I had more time (and water) to apply it to.

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Posted by mr jig on 2002 PM:

"Still a good read"???

With no insult intended , there May be 3 visitors to this board who
have a basic understanding of the 1984 printing of this book.
If i am in error as i may be ,our posters are not displaying the wisdom available to them in this printing.
dick.

Posted by Bigredfishing on 2002 PM:

If i might add; the largemouth bass, walleye, and catfish versions of that book are also tremendous.

Do not for get about the entire collection of "the hunting and fishing library" series of books. They are extremely informative. I have every single one published. Wal-mart and K-mart offer them now. I received all mine through the mail. They are really a great series of books, they complement the in-fisherman series very well.

I would like to add, just cause i feel like it;
You cannot over simplify smallmouth bass. They are the most dependable, predictable fish, with the exception of tiny blue gills. I, like most other anglers know, that if you want to target smallies, and you are at least somewhat familier with the water body, you will catch fish. Maybe not alot, but you will catch fish.

Lance

Posted by dodgeguy on 2002 PM:

mike d.,boston ale packs a good buzz!!!

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Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

ballantine ale in the green cans/bottles used to be the real deal-can't get it anymore switched to bass ale--ballantine came in kegs and i can remember many a throbbing head the next morning-getting too old for that now-bobn

Posted by mikeD in NYC on 2002 PM:

i buy ballantine ale 40 ouncers at the deli around the corner... nice flavor to drink with dinner...mmmm, i think i'll go get one

Posted by bass 64 on 2002 PM:

MR.JIG

Is there a particular reason you go for smallmouths that much more than largemouths? Is it the fight? I live on Long Island and have been fishing avidly for about 2.5 years now. I mostly only have the oppurtunities to target LM and I love them. I did however catch my first and quite a few smallmouth this year on an Adirondack fishing trip. I do love that smallie fight.

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Posted by mr jig on 2002 AM:

bass64

Yes the fight is a big factor,the smallie IS a far superior fish in terms of strength , jumps and never give up heart.

Having said that though the biggest reason i prefer smallies is that i prefer where they live.
My idea of great fishing is on uncrowded northern lakes,with some loons for company.
That is smallmouth country.
Because quality smallmouth rarely relate to cover, one can use light, enjoyable tackle rather than the derricks that are sometimes needed to drag the poor largemouths out of the crap.

I know what i like and i have pursued what i like my whole life.
Thanks for asking.
dick

Posted by bobn on 2002 PM:

guys, over a thousand views and only 46 votes--come on we are not looking for resumes--click on the appropriate spot, vote and move on--bobn

Posted by HookUp on 2002 AM:

Sorry, it's the nerd in me

That's about as normal as a distribution you'll ever see.

Sorry, to many stat classes in school.

Posted by Jared C. on 2002 PM:

Twenty-seven. There's nothing witty I can come up with for 27 so I'll just say.....LABATT'S BLUE!

Jared C.

Posted by hammer on 2002 PM:

38 GOING ON 17

I'M 38 BUT MY WIFE SAYS I'M CLOSER TO 17, WAS IT HOW OLD ARE YOU? OR HOW OLD DO YOU ACT?

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Posted by Travis on 2002 PM:

" there May be 3 visitors to this board who have a basic understanding of the 1984 printing of this book."

I think I am a part of that 3. On second thought I know I am.
The cover finally gave way from the binding some 4 years ago and 4 years ago I read and re-read someones posts that sounded like the book but only better...and it finally sunk in and made it possible for me to see the light.

Gents I want to relay something here as these last few posts directed at Mr. Jig have made me relize and ponder a bit. Actually they sound like things that I in years past asked him. I hope that noone hear listens to Mr. Jig and only hears him. Listen to his words and what he says. When I first started reading Mr. Jigs posts some 4 years ago on another board what he proposed as rule was nothing as I knew it as it related to smallmouth bass. But I continued to listen. I think he would tell you when I was a new comer to that board he and I butted heads on occasion as he didn't understand me nor I him.

Admittedly when I first was on this smallmouth board I knew WAY less of them than I did LM by far having fished for LM all over the country while in the Marines. I had always enjoyed fishing for smallmouths MORE than LM when I sat and thought about it. So I set out on a quest to become as familiar with them as I am LM...that quest meant putting ego behind, reading everything I had already read about the fish but this time around really reading it. Asking Mr. Jig things that if my ego was bigger than I was, I would never have asked. These were BASIC smallmouth bass questions folks.

I use to be a run and gunner, one of those one foot on the trolling motor types with 14 rod in tow with the so called excepted range of lures tied on them. Past posts on bronzeback.com will exibit my OLD ways to the tune of having 6 crankbaits tied on , 3 different spinninerbaits etc etc. When I stopped saying and started listening to this man we know as Mr. Jig my fishing not only became more enjoyable but more rewarding on a personal level. Not feeling as if you have to own the most expensive equipment and realizing that your equipment doesn't mean a lick if you haven't done your homework toward what you persue, not thinking you need every colored bait under the sun, getting a much firmer grasp on biology as it relates to where YOU fish and fish for, realizing an anchor can be a tool, not buying into the hyperbole that some main stream magazines and tv shows pass off as gospel, realizing docks are for boats and not smallmouths, understanding structure should(for smallmouths) be of first importance while others put lures into a tea cup, realizing jig heads needn't be big to be the most useful tools, realizing that bigger hooks aren't of a bigger value, knowing that you can effectivly cover the water far better with less than with more.... when you know why when and where.

My fishing has done an about face in the last 3 years(as some close to me could tell you) because of both posts on the aforementined board but also winter time emails 3 years back that read like novels from him to me. Those emails and many other posts are kept on disk. I reference them as I would my beloved IF book or Charlie Brewer book. If you would like to read some of the best things I have seen on smallmouth bass(and I have seen) go to www.bronzeback.com and go into the archives, but only if you willing to go in with an open mind. You will get a better grasp of what he KNOWS.

Since my return to the boards and such I have heard things like "you sound like Mr. Jig" , " Mr. Jig 2 has spoken"....folks I am a student of his and couldn't carry his tackle box and would be the one pulling anchors all day. But the comparisons make me feel as if I am headed in the right direction....

If you have read my posts recently or over the years you will realize I don't blow sunshine up anyones skirt very often. What I stated above isn't that either. It is a respect from pupil to teacher.

I am 31

Trav

Posted by Gregg on 2002 PM:

I think I'll go reread that book!

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Posted by HookUp on 2002 AM:

I learned the most of SM from the readings on RS.com and Ken Penrod.

I learned the most about bass from Grits Grisham and Shaw Grigsby.

The most important thing I learned about fishing is be the fish. Yeah, I can hear some you now, what's this be-the-fish yen cr@p.

But it works. Total concentration, attention to detail about the gear, the water, the conditions, the weather, the bait. Having a postive attitude and sobriety on the water is essential to catch fish, especially the lunker bass (or what I'ld like to refer to Walter). Being completely in tune w/ nature. Why are those birds overthere? Ah, power lines w/ birds sitting on them, pooing in the water. Rocky shore line could mean rocky ledges under water, riffels, pools, steps, where's the sun?

I stole a saying from a dude on RS.com, it only matters when it matters.

And every little detail matters.

Posted by Bigredfishing on 2002 PM:

Guys, now fishing books can help. Really good fishing books can really help, but there is absolutely no substitute for experience. I beleive that those books are mosvaluable to beginning fisherman, and then again to experienced fisherman.

I know most books helped me make certain connections, like why smallies are on gentle sloping points VS steep sloping points at certain times, ect, ect..... I find them particularly valuable to read, after i have been fishing. Connections, connections. I beleive when it comes to fish Biology, that is where advancing one's knowledge lies. Books help, but there is just no substitute for time on the water.
Lance

Posted by Charlie on 2002 PM:

Looks like the "ol farts" win again!

LMAO!!

Charlie

p.s. Hey BIG RED, the problem with fishing books is the damn bass don't read the ones I read!!!

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