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CTbassmaster
12-10-2004, 10:54 PM
Tubes, tubes, tubes, besides the word senko these
undersized baits have been the key plastic thrown by many tournament anglers thoughout
New England for the last decade. What happened to the 10" worm, the
6" lizard and a big beefy jig for that matter? (well I still love the jig
in Largemouth country). A strong majority of the fish weighed in at most
tournaments got placed in the livewell by being duped by a tube. I still have
the age old thought process of "big baits", "big bass" and
many times this is true but when the money is on the line and limits of bass
are needed I usually find myself slinging a tube bait. This little creature
seems to put numbers of fish in the boat as well as 4's and 5's. After a long
discussion with my tx. partner over a case of Heine's, I hollered out, " I
believe a strong increase in fishing pressure is one of the main reasons of
this downsized baits performance." Crawfish are many times the number one
forage of both the largies and smallies at many of our lakes. A look in the
livewell after a tournament can usually confirm this. Also an increase in hook
up percentage is evident too, due to the usually fully exposed hook, when fish
suck this bait in and attempt to swim many times the hook starts to set itself
instantly. There are many diff ways to fish a tube, but we will not discuss
flippin them which is a totally diff animal entirely, instead I am talking
mainly of the draggin technique. Some may like to hop, twitch or swim them but
my greatest success has been on the drag and pause method. Close concentration,
line watching and feel is vitally important in this presentation. There are
four important aspects to consider when tube fishing: first is "fall
rate" which is determined by the weight of the insert head selected,
second is, believe it or not "color", third is "line test"
which also has an impact on fall rate, feel, hookset power and fish deterency.
and lastly is "sound" , rattles sometimes can take an exteme
advantage over silent presentations, epsecially in deep or off colored waters.
Tube head weights of 1/16 and 1/8 work better when fished relitively shallow
waters less than 8 ft. Light line proves positive for a slow and natural fall,
for soft presentations in colder water.
Tube heads of 1/4 and 3/8 oz. are better suited with line tests of 8-12 lbs and
get the majority use during most of our fishing year. At these weights keeping
good contact with your bait and feeling structure is key feeling tell tale taps
and thumps of a biting fish.
Tube heads of 1/2 oz. + are good for warm waters when fish are staged deeper
and heavier line tests are needed for long casts in deeper water 20ft+ where
ram home hooksets are sometimes lost due to mono stretch of lighter lines.
Color was my second choice and to be honest I personally do not have to think
about weight after I know the depth and pattern of the fish I am after, so
really this ranks high in my book. When many fish are keyed to a crawdad bite
using a color that matches the hatch will catch many more fish than a strong
off color tube will. Watermelons, Green pumpkins and blacks will usually get
the job done throughout most new england waters. I have seen to many days where
the optimum color for that day was crucial to catch more and many times the
larger fish.
Sound is an oftened overlooked aspect of tube fishing. Rattling tube heads were
the reason I actually started my Hookerz company because I use them and believe
in them that much. Over the past 5 or so years I have fished many Pro am format
tournaments where myself and my non-boater were draggin tubes. I usually throw
a Rattlin tube jig about 75% of the time and most other anglers in the boat do
not use them. Usually after boating a few fish I always get the question
"what color is that, that you are using?" After I answer I will throw
him/her a few of mine. After I boat a comfortable limit (hopefully) I will
usually share the rattlin tube jig with them and they say thats neat, and I
have a customer for life. The rattlin tube jig really shines in off colored
water where visability is limited and many times when fishing deeper depths in
clearer water.
Mastering the tube technique can be done by anyone with patience and
perserverence. Once done, and confidence is found this will add to everyones
fish catching skills. Good Luck and tight lines to all.
Jason Cuda
Hookerz Tackle
Lpbassman
12-10-2004, 11:15 PM
Excellent reading Jason. I have just "downloaded"
these important "updates".
I will really look forward to a first hand lesson in the spring. Any news on
the fan tails yet?
LP
CTbassmaster
12-11-2004, 08:00 AM
I just ran the tracking number and they will arrive
on Tues. I should have them on the site for ordering by next weekend.
Jason
earthworm77
12-11-2004, 01:16 PM
No doubt about the effectiveness of tubes. Can you believe that when Garland introduced them in the 70's, they didn't catch on. It wasn't until guys started winning tournaments on Mead in the 80's did the craze start.
Paul_M
12-12-2004, 11:21 AM
I fished the gitzits in the late 70's in Hell's Canyon.
earthworm77
12-12-2004, 02:03 PM
Paul, were the tubes you were using different from the Gitzit as it is sold today. I have a few hundred of the original Fatzee which is about 3" long and has the diameter of an OTB pencil, very thin. Likely the best finesse tubes ever made. Very hard to find.
Hookset
12-12-2004, 03:39 PM
Great read! At the end of this season I committed
to myself to make learning to fish a tube a priority for next year. Thanks for
the article. Hookerz-nice site!
HOOKSET :beerchug:
BooBee
12-13-2004, 01:31 PM
You mention good hook up rates because of the
"exposed" hook. I'm afraid to fish a tube with an exposed hook in
weed cover. What would be a good method, if any, fishing a tube in heavy weeds?
I will toss my lures ANYWHERE (no fear of losing a lure) but I am afraid to
expose a hook in weeds.
-Eric
earthworm77
12-13-2004, 02:22 PM
Texas rig the tube with a sliding bullet weight and glass bead. Go to the archives Eric, I wrote a whole article on it a while back. Texas Tube Madness.
Lpbassman
12-13-2004, 03:51 PM
Eric,
The worst thats going to happen fishing an exposed hook in the weeds is that
you get hung up. Why would you worry about loosing a plastic tube and a hook.
I'd be a lot more concerned about loosing an expensive crankbait!
Woodman
12-14-2004, 09:27 PM
Eric,
I use XPS Rattln' tube weights. These go inside the tube and then you T-rig the
hook through the tube weight to hold it inside. Works great in weeds. Plus the
tube weight also has a rattle.
I use a 2/0 EWG hook on zoom tubes. By doing this, you can use the same rod and
reel to wacky rig a senko using the 2/0 hook.
Woody
CTbassmaster
12-15-2004, 01:01 AM
My post dealt mainly with the Draggin' technique.
for flippin into grass you might want to try what Woodman had suggested, as I normally
do the same, but I use generally larger tubes with larger hooks and heavier
line.
Woodman, if the Zoom tube is your high confidence bait than stick with it. I am
a big Zoom man myself but their tubes have not performed not nearly as well as
many other companies I have tried. I do not currently sell a Flippin size tube
of my own yet ( coming in 4 weeks) so I am speaking from personal experience
only. I used the larger Micro Munch tube this past season with great success.
My reasoning for disliking the Zoom tube is the injection process Zoom uses to
create their tubes gives the tubes much thicker tails which lack alot of
underwater movement. A comparative test in dunk tank will show that. I am never
satisfied with something the way it is, I am always trying to build a better
mousetrap, hence my line of tubes called Black Widow Baits was created. Yes,
there are only 5 major tube manufacturers in the US and I am using one to build
for me. But, our Ultra finesse tubes are made for us only, after giving them
the size, circumference, salt, garlic and body and tail length percentages. As
will be our next 2 lines of tube baits coming very soon. I hope this may help
you put even more fish in the boat. When I release our Flippin tubes shoot me
an email with your address and I will get you out a couple samples. Tight
lines.
Jason
Charlie
12-21-2004, 09:17 AM
No question that the tube or gitzit has been a
productive bait for many years. Back in 1998 I wrote an article of the use of
what was Bobby Garlands Gitzits, after the company had been purchased by Budz
Fishin Wayz, of New Jersey. I was on Bud's staff for two years and
"re-discovered" ways to fish these amazin little things.
Working with Bud, we came up with many new colors, and many sizes from tiny
1-1/2" to the mighty 10' gitzit.
I will not go into the many ways in which a tube can be fished, but compaired
to most other plastics, it is certainly one of the most versatile and has more
applications than any other lure in your tackle box.
Nice read and thank you for keeping the tube alive. It is a vital bait as most
who read this site will confirm.
FYI apart from the mighty Senko, GYCB does also make an amazing tube! Just
imagine the softness of the Senko hollowed out with a skirt added.....WOW !!!!
I think I have to go lay down again!!!
Tight Lines!
Charlie :cool:
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